ICE capades - tales of the detained

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Since when does ā€œyou have no right toā€¦ā€ had any meaning to these goons? But i do agree, make it as uncomfortable for them as possible.

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Is somebody going to try a ā€œstand your groundā€ action if somebody shows up without any kind of a warrant and trespasses?

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He’s apparently been nominated for a lifetime federal appeals court position. How many Dems (other than Fetterman) will vote to confirm him?

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She called 911 to report domestic abuse. Then Houston police called ICE on her.

Suitable for here and ā€œWhy not call the copsā€

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I don’t know American law that well, but if someone enters into your private property without identifying themselves, it could be argued that a property owner has the right to ā€œstand their groundā€ if they have no reason to believe that this unidentified person is an ICE agent. Who knows; it may get tested at some point.

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If you are a poor redneck from the cafundós of the Ozarks, probably they would throw you in jail and will get a millionaire fine. But I think you can get away with murder if you can prove in court that you didn’t know the victim was a police officer.

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If the person is white, they might get away with it.

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So it begins, or probably began some time ago, but we’re starting to hear about it now;

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In other video, an agent can be seen lifting Velez off the ground and carrying her away.

Authorities have not told lawyers what charges Velez faces, but an official with the Department of Homeland Security told media that she was arrested for assaulting an Ice officer.

Very obviously an ā€œarrested for resisting arrestā€ situation, a post hoc rationalization for the illegal arrest.

I’ve got a ton of questions about this story, but the clear facts are insane:

At least they sent him to Jamaica, says Thomas’ new friend and fellow deportee Tanya Campbell. It may be a country he’s never stepped foot in, and it may be he’s only there because of his ā€œappearance,ā€ as she puts it, but at least the language is English.

It sounds like they didn’t know where to send him because he legally has no citizenship anywhere, so they just sent him to the nearest ā€œBlackā€ country, even though he’s never been there before or have any connection to the place.

Thomas says he doesn’t know what to do in Jamaica. He finds people difficult to understand, plus many speak Patois, and he doesn’t. He doesn’t know how to get a job. He doesn’t know if it’s the Jamaican or U.S. government paying for his hotel room, and for how long that will last. He’s not sure if it’s even legal for him to be there.

(Emphasis mine.)

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It seems they picked Jamaica because his father was Jamaican. Reading between the lines, his father wasn’t yet American when he was born and he wasn’t born in America, so he’d have to apply to become a US citizen. Which didn’t happen, probably because it never needed to until now.

Germany, where he was born, doesn’t have birthright citizenship (actually pretty common).

If his father was Jamaican when he was born, he’s eligible for Jamaican citizenship by descent. Until then, he’s stateless, and Jamaica might not want him. Jamaica is not a rich country, and because of his prison record they might see him as more of a potential burden than benefit.

A lot of the very fucked-up things the US is doing with allegedly illegal immigrants is copying the Australian model, used on asylum seekers who arrived by boat. Arriving by plane is fine, boat is not. Don’t ask, because I don’t know either.

Shipping to prison camps in poor countries who are desperate for any investment? We did that first. Yay us. (puke emoji here).

But as awful as the Australian policies are, there is a line drawn about rendering anyone stateless. Practically speaking, because this guy is stateless, unless he’s heard otherwise he’s not allowed to be anywhere. Which includes Jamaica. Legally living, working, getting married, etc are pretty much legally impossible in most countries when you’re stateless. All the stupid catch-22s about being homeless are scaled up, and they affect not just ā€œhere and nowā€ but also ā€œfor the foreseeable futureā€.

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