Over/Under-rated movies: the redux

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:heart: Monster

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I have finally seen I movie I’ve wanted to see since I was 12, “Dune.”

What can I say about this movie? Everything I’ve read about it is true. All the good, bad and otherwise contradictory information written about this movie is absolutely true.

Is it a good movie? Well I don’t exactly hate it, but there is just something not quite right about it. For example, at the start of he movie, why does the woman fade in and out three times while explaining the plot? And then why is her explanation followed by a PowerPoint presentation explaining the plot a second time? And then why is Paul watching another PowerPoint presentation explaining the story a third time?

The producers clearly did not trust the audience, or David Lynch for that matter. They cut approximately one hour out of the movie and replaced that content with incessant, insulting explanations of what we could have been seeing.

They didn’t need to do that. The story isn’t that complicated: The floating bad guy doesn’t like the good guy with the beard, the bad guy conquers the good guy and the good guy’s son gets his revenge while developing god-like powers. Herbert’s fascinating world-building would be the meat in those bones.

On the plus side, it’s certainly a beautiful movie. It all looks good, except for that “space folding” scene. That part is so absurdly inept I have to imagine it was added without Lynch’s input.

My primary criticism about the movie is that both Brad Dourif’s and Dean Stockwell’s characters die halfway through the film. That’s bad movie-making. And then there’s Sting. When you have Sting in your movie you have him do something — something other than standing around smiling, and taking the occasional steam bath.

So, the movie is a bit of a mess. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. One of my favorite movies is “Metropolis,” and that’s a bit of mess at times too. And this did make a lot more sense than “Inland Empire.” I’ll have to watch this one again.

A few highlights:

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I listened to the book on audio book not too long ago. I remember absolutely loving it as a teen and I read the whole series. Well, listening as an adult woman, I had to lol because it is SUCH a teenage boy fantasy view of the world, inverting a lot of the actual power dynamics of a 13 year old. I guess as a girl I related somehow, or saw myself through his eyes.

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I like Lynch’s Dune, except the Weirding guns and the ending, which are both really cheesy and completely divorced from the book.

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Yes. I would say the beginning and the end were weak, but the middle was very well done.

Really? I was thinking of reading the book, now I’m not so sure.

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I read the book in university for a Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Romance course, and it didn’t hold up so well. I think even by then we were too old for it. Everyone in my tutorial had trouble suspending disbelief.

And the last line – " We may be concubines, but history will remember us as wives" – annoyed the crap out of me.

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Yeah it’s all about this teenager taking power of the country and also there’s a love story that is very basic.

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Just heard an interview with Mark Hamill on the radio, and

he doesn't sound like Luke Skywalker AT ALL

I never realized he was “doing a voice” all through Star Wars

but I guess that’s his whole thing :confused:

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they actually made action figures for it, I got Baron H. and his henchman guy for Christmas that year, but a few years later sold them at a yard sale since I didn’t play with action figures any more.
The Baron one was cool, when you pressed the button on his back, he raised his arms over his head like in that one scene.

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I have to say I’m a bit surprised by the general opinion of “Dune” the book. I had always been led to believe it is the purest, densest, most ambitious and most complicated example of sci-fi in the known universe. Instead, from what I’ve read here, it seems the book is more of a boys’ adventure book.

I feel like someone’s pulled out my heart plug. :cry:

By-the-way, from watching the movie I learned two important things:

I now know why Tom Servo occasionally shouts “I! WILL! KILL! YOU!!”

And I was charmed to find the Fatboy Slim, “walk without rhythm, you won’t attract the worm” is actually said in the movie.

Could you express his pustules?

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See also An Infinite Jest. Also Fight Club in certain quarters.

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Well, those I already know are crap. :grin:

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It appears you could even get one of the smaller sandworms and produce your own water of life.

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It is seriously one of the densest and deeply pursued explorations of boy-power tropes. * So… once you get it, you get it, and needn’t go on through the power machinations of the feminist nun bioposthumans, the shapeshifting identity-queer bioposthumans, the weakling genius boy bioposthumans, the spacenaut stoner bioposthumans, and whatever came after Chapterhouse stuff and so on. I think it’s more relatable to feminism by describing a founding ruin to dissect and cart away to a 1 million year ash heap of history.

So yeah, it’s simplistic to a fault.

* Just like Fight Club!

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This is everything. I want it all so bad.

Edit: especially the sand worm!!!

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I’m just trying to understand the sandtrouts.

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Spermcocks. All just spermcocks.

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it can be both things.

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Isn’t it, like, a pastiche of Lawrence of Arabia rewritten for the sci-fi market?

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