So now we need a measles thread

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Yep.

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And so it goes. I keep hearing people say “but it doesn’t seem to be taking off…” (disregarding Onterio and Texas/NM) but with this particular bug, all it takes is for it to find its way into one of the unvaxxed communities, which can be found in any state regardless of the overall vaccination rate, and it can cause trouble. I have seen a small uptick in folks wanting their kids to get the MMR who had previously not wanted vaccines at all, so there is that. But it is absolutely ot over.

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We just got our first local warning of a measles exposure incident. A family spent a couple of days staying at a local hotel, and one of the children tested positive for measles a few days after they left.

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The new group fails to include experts on any diseases that vaccines prevent. Or experts on vaccines themselves. Or experts on infectious-disease epidemiology. Or experts on clinical trials. “We’ve taken people who had expertise and fired them for a bogus reason,” says the University of Pennsylvania vaccinologist Paul Offit, a former member of the A.C.I.P. and the creator of the rotavirus vaccine. In their place have been installed what the bioethicist Ezekiel Emanuel, also of the University of Pennsylvania, described to me as “vaccine skeptics.” Offit calls them, more pointedly, “purveyors of disinformation.”

“The consequence will be people will lose trust in the panel and its advice,” Offit went on. “In fact, I think it’s already happened.” Emanuel agreed: “I don’t think we’ll be able to trust the A.C.I.P. operation anymore,” he told me. “It begins to make people distrust the U.S. government as a whole. Or distrust it even more.” One result, he suggested, was that Americans would start to treat vaccine recommendations like the State Department’s travel advisories — mostly ignoring them.

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https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/32529/AAP-will-continue-to-publish-its-own-vaccine?autologincheck=redirected

AAP will continue to publish its own vaccine recommendations after CDC advisers sow distrust

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This is, unfortunately, not surprising. :frowning: :anger:

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Handy charts (by age group) of vaccine recommendations from the Before Times (November 2024). Saved and printed :ballot_box_with_check:

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Thanks for this.

When was the last time Scientific American crossed gov’t policy so deeply?

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Kentucky, come on down!

There are three other large outbreaks in North America. The longest, in Ontario, Canada, has resulted in 2,212 cases from mid-October through June 24. The province logged its first death June 5 in a baby who got congenital measles but also had other preexisting conditions.
Another outbreak in Alberta, Canada, has sickened 1,169 as of Wednesday. And the Mexican state of Chihuahua had 2,810 measles cases and eight deaths as of Wednesday, according to data from the state health ministry.

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Every time I check on this, it is (not unexpectedly, given the current administration) getting worse.
But it’s not just here. The outbreak in Ontario seems to be burning itself out.

The one in Chihuahua just keeps going

The unifying factor, of course, is resistance to vaccination. Your usual reminder: None of this had to happen!

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Chuck Schumer sends a sternly worded letter

The rapid resurgence and spread of measles is alarming and requires dedication of more federal resources. Measles was declared eliminated in the United States in 2000, after years of implementing an effective two-dose vaccination campaign for children. Recent months have seen a rapidly spreading outbreak concentrated mostly in Texas with three reported deaths – all in unvaccinated Americans. It is incredibly troubling that these tragic deaths due to measles – the first since 2015 – are being met with an inadequate public health response marked by the absence of available federal funding, personnel, and resources. As a painful but pertinent reminder, you’ve laid off disease experts, canceled National Institutes of Health (NIH) research into vaccine hesitancy, fired scientists from the nation’s top immunization panel, and stripped over $11 billion in federal public health grants — including $550 million from Texas during the peak of its outbreak. In Dallas County alone, 50 vaccine clinics closed, and 21 public health workers were laid off. This is not a coincidence. This is a catastrophe of your own making.

And while families grieved and health departments begged for help, you told the public that “it’s not unusual” to see measles deaths. You pushed vitamin A instead of vaccines, and days after finally acknowledging that the MMR vaccine prevents measles, you returned to sowing doubt about autism — a dangerous, long-debunked conspiracy theory. Secretary Kennedy, the American people need a public health response. Not political theater. Not conspiracy. Not silence.

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Why not join the party?

Alberta was one I had not been watching, but this is startling:

Health authorities in the western province have recorded 1,314 cases since early March. That’s more than the whole of the United States, which registered 1,288 cases in the same period, while Alberta’s population represents just 1.46% of that of its southern neighbor.

It’s all over North America. I fear we are rapidly approaching the point where we have lost control and will have to turn to mitigation. This means vaccination, which way too many folks will have a shit fit over. I am not optimistic.

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“Full disclosure, 18 days after visiting Seminole, Texas, sitting in a measles clinic and being exposed to Doctor Ben with the measles, I got the measles. So cool,” Hooker said.

cwaa

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The numbers seem to be dying down for now. Largely from running out of kindling to burn through. There are lots of unvaccinated communities of significant size that have not been affected yet, though. I live near a couple of them. Just a waiting game now to see where it pops up next. What a fucking unnecessary mess!

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Just needs to find a vulnerable community. Any and all population centers have them.

Also:

Birch, who lives in Fort Saskatchewan, Alta., said she is also worried that her daughter may suffer long-term health complications as a result of her getting measles at such a young age.
“It’s not just that parent or child who it affected when they don’t vaccinate, there’s a whole other population that needs to be protected by vaccines.”

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https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5421394-tennessee-school-doctors-note-chronic-absenteeism/

Tennessee school won’t accept doctor’s notes for absences

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Hunter and Dorothy won’t be in school today. They are sicker than a coon dawg.

Signed Dr. Mom

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