So now we need a measles thread

I had measles as a kid. I distinctly remember that. I had chickenpox too but was too young to remember, but I have a few scars on my face. Apparently my mother sewed mittens shut around my wrists to stop my scratching.

When I went to university they needed my proof of chickenpox vaccine and since I couldnt prove I had previously had the disease I got a shot. Came down with shingles six weeks later. Coincidence? Yeah probably.

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Sigh got there, and they cancelled on me while I was waiting in line. No supply. They said call back on Tuesday to see if they’d gotten some more in.

I’m guessing I’m not the only person in the 1957-1968 group in Wilmington who’s getting a little nervous…

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In Virginia now. Went through Dulles. Fun times

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Preventable deaths are coming.

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Preventable deaths are here, and will only accellerate.

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FUCK. THAT. GUY.

I seriously thought i could not despise RFK jr any more than i did in the vaccine wars. I was wrong.

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In the latest data, only 88 percent of Oklahoma’s kindergartners were up to date on measles vaccination, significantly below the 95 percent target to prevent community spread.

I am seriously struggling with how anyone who has measles can be described as “don’t pose a risk to the public.” I am having so much PTSD to 2020, pounding on a countertop and screaming into the void about how bad this was going to be. Same now, but this time there is experience and data on just how bad this can get. There is no treatment! There is only prevention. And TPTB are intently not listening. Again, dead kids are an acceptable price to pay.

As an addendum/nightmare fuel, the generally accepted acute mortality rate for measles is 1-3 / 1000, higher in areas where malnutrition and inability to access medical care is an issue. So, here, it should be roughly 0.1%. The current outbreak is running at nearly 1%, 10x the expected rate. Either the bug has mutated to a more dangerous strain, which is not impossible but pretty unlikely considering how stable it has been throughout its history with us, or there are roughly 10x the number of cases that are acknowledged. I tend to lean this way. And it scares the hell out of me.

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Is the sample size large enough to feel secure in that 10x multiplier of either cases or deadliness?

ETA: Just trying to find some hope.

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No, with an n of only 2, the margin of error would be huge, especially since you can’t be 0.26 dead. It doesn’t prove there are hundreds of unaccounted for cases out there, merely suggests it. The problem is, I suspect that the numbers will grow to a point where that n is large enough to draw actual conclusions. I hate that a whole hell of a lot.

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Being in a “high-risk” profession (college faculty) and of an age where I did not receive vaccinations for MMR, I was concerned about the possibility that I might be exposed to the measles by a student returning from Spring Break. I took the advice from @Docosc and had titers done.

I am relieved to find that my immune response to all of these is strong - well above the threshold value for each. Whew! Now I only have to worry about COVID, bird flu, ebola, hantavirus, …

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And why did people stop doing this? Oh yeah, because a fucking vaccine became available.

I missed the boat to get the chicken pox vaccine by just a few years, but I would have much rather had that than the two weeks of misery I had to suffer through as a kid with it and having to worry about getting shingles later in life. (At least there’s a vaccine for that now which I plan to get as soon as I turn 50.)

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Well I certainly feel like I am on some days.

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I have a sleep disorder and I once told my shrink how I feel so awful every morning when I wake up that I sometimes wish I was dead. I was being obviously hyperbolic to nail home the point about how unrestful my sleep feels. In a later session, he asked if I have any feelings or desires around wishing I were dead — “other than when I wake up in the morning, of course”.

I’m glad my shrink has a good sense of humor.

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Not just TX. Add LAX to JFK and Dulles as recent sites to get your measles exposure. The majority of those exposed will be immune, of course. But a single unvaxxed family, infant, immunocompromised person, or one of the 2-3% who are not immune despite being vacvinated, and we have a problem.

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I know what you mean, and the 26% seems to change from day to day…

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He should go get himself some immunity from Ebola.

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It really is covid all over again. Fuuuuuck!

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