Apparently this young woman somehow thinks there are solid distinctions between “Americans”, “American citizens”, “naturalized citizens” and “immigrants”.
But her parents are special, so they get to be “American citizens” despite being immigrants who became naturalized, just as he is.
Wow. Someone who actually spoke back, and clearly and succinctly! That’s magnificent.
He did a great job responding to the insanity in that “debate”, although sadly that means a lot of utter shitbags also gained exposure and content to promote themselves with. The whole thing is filled with him responding to some jaw-droppingly dumb, and at times scary and sickening, stuff.
That’s not dumb, that’s evil and exploitative, taking advantage of desperate people and their families.
Shame on all these leaking arseholes.
Are we over the whole “debating with Nazis is like playing chess with a pigeon” thing?
Between this (which had people who were far beyond “far right”) and the recent “One Christian vs 20 Atheists” (later renamed to “Jordan Peterson vs 20 Athiests”) which had Peterson frantically trying to dodge anything that would pin down his own beliefs, that Jubilee group is really making a name for themselves for bait-and-switch “debates” that go down in flames.
What’s the cutoff between ‘far right’ and ‘beyond far right’? And do we need to discriminate between the two?
I tend to think there’s a meaningful distinction between people like the very confused lady in the video above, and someone who flat out says “yes, I’m a fascist!” and advocates for an autocracy where any parts of the Constitution that don’t benefit him are stricken out (which, yes, is an example from one of the other people in this “debate”).
YMMV
“Saying the quiet part out loud” seems like a distinction without a difference.
Holy crap. I’m not even halfway through it but I can’t believe what I’m seeing.
And how calm and focused and polite he is.
“Hey, what can you say?”
“I think you can say ‘I’m a fascist.’”
“Yeah, I am.”
“I don’t debate fascists.”
“Okay. So do you concede then?”
“Do I concede that you’re a fascist who won’t condemn the Nazis? Yes, I concede that.”
“Okay, great. So what are we doing here, because you just seem offended, to be quite frank.”
“I am offended by people who can’t condemn the Nazis. Yes, I am.”
“It’s a pleasure to meet you, sir.”
“I can’t say the same, but uh, thank you.”
Such chill, such calm, such rational responses.
Meanwhile I’m just sitting here wanting to be able to shout to these people “Do you idiots not realize that we fought an entire war against this? Your grandparents or great-grandparents could tell you about that.”
Props to the people who set it up. They did great job of picking the most rotten apples out of whatever dumpsters they found those people in.