Um.... what.... aka, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read

No, no there really isn’t. There is prejudice and bigotry when some women percieve other women as being trans (regardless of whether they are), but it’s no more primal or natural a prejudice than feeling the same way if you think someone is black or Jewish.

Alison Blechdel nailed it here:

Look at what you said and then swap in a different target.

Sounds an awful lot like something you’d hear a racist or homophobe say, isn’t it? That’s because it’s the same fucking arguments recycled over and over. Or try reversing it:

It’s not even about hatred of women. It’s just bigotry, hatred and assholery wrapped up in whatever excuse the haters want to use.

More and more evidence is emerging that even that isn’t necessarily the case. Biology is weird as fuck. If there are hard sciences and soft sciences, among the less artsy sciences, biology is downright squishy. You can’t make blanket statements about biology. Not even that. What we outside observers think we see and know, is really not that relevant to reality. Not only are there more than just two genders, but there’s a hell of a lot more than two biological sexes.

Like the song says: you’ve got to be carefully taught.

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I didn’t say that well. I didn’t mean that the trans person was the cause of the bigotry. I meant that the visceral hatred some bigots feel toward trans women reflects how strong the misogyny is in our culture.

On a side note, My family’s friend Howard Cruise mentored Allison Bechdel. There was a nice article about Gay Comix recently and his role in its founding.

http://wepresent.wetransfer.com/story/gay-comix/?utm_source=wetransfer&utm_medium=wallpaper&utm_campaign=wp_oct20&utm_content=wallpaper_1

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I should’ve put my first thought - because they once had a penis. And “biologically” was a poor choice; maybe I should’ve used “physiologically”…or just “had a penis”. Transphobic women don’t want people who once had dicks move in on their territory, perhaps?

I mean, from my tiny mind trying to understand what’s going on about gender issues, I learned a lot about my own self re gender. Then again, when there’s something I don’t understand that I want to understand, I go and try to do so until I can to the best of my ability.

P.S.: I’ve been mistaken for being a male so many times, it’s actually funny-haha. Folks have also tried to insult me by calling me a “man in a dress” and a “tranny”; back then, yes, I felt insulted - how dare they slight my femininity! Now, I think, “Those folks are just so dumb, fuck 'em but not literally.” Heck, that kind of “insult” also leads me to believe I could do my own “Victor/Victoria” gig, y’knowatimeen, lol?

P.P.S.: And if I can’t understand something, I just accept it as is.

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I don’t understand how genderfluid works. But if some people feel it best describes their experiences, then okay.

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EXACTLY. Folks can explain things to me, but they can’t understand it for me. And gee-whiz, I’m pretty sure I’m not meant to understand everything in this universe.

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I have a genderfluid polyamorous former coworker now friend, and I understand that well enough for myself, but not well enough to explain it to someone else secondhand.

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Wow… so many things here…

Like Ford, Biden fought an election against an incumbent who was mired in scandal, corruption, hatred, and bigotry.

Someone clearly didn’t actually look at the timeline of Nixon’s pardon.

On the other hand, Biden could grant Trump a blanket presidential pardon, like Ford did for Nixon. Trump wouldn’t face criminal charges and could hopefully disappear into the gaudy corridors of Mar-A-Lago for the rest of his life

Just my opinion, but I think anyone who thinks Trump would accept a pardon and then not loudly proclaim that it proved his innocence while pushing as much confusion and innuendo as possible onto Biden’s Presidency has clearly been living under a rock for the last 8 years.

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huh?
Ford wasn’t elected. After Agnew resigned, he was appointed by Nixon, with the consent of Congress. Ford would later go on to lose to Carter in 1976.

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And then became President when Nixon later resigned, which let him pardon Nixon. I really don’t know how it’s possible that someone can compare that to Biden’s relationship to Trump, who refuses to accept responsibility for anything

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It’s called “revisionist history”, isn’t it?

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Right, if that author really believes that, I think we could sell them some oceanfront property in Arizona. Maybe even a Golden Gate Bridge or two.

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Beachfront property on Zug Island, too.

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Thanks. Now that will be stuck in my head for who knows how long…

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A song from my childhood, that’s been stuck in my head ever since.

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What an idiot. He should be impeached for stupidity alone, not just for being overtly politically and religiously biased.

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When the fuck did it become okay to people to forget that EVERY human has basic rights, and if something is going out of fashion, it means that OOPS, folks are getting tired of it.

I don’t see humanists protesting in front of various faith-based places of worship against their right to worship. I don’t understand the fear of believers who don’t seem to ever think that their god might want things to be the way they are, you know? Or how everyone knows what their respective god is thinking and means, when they can’t even understand basic physics. Do they ever, ever maybe wonder if…oh, I dunno, their god CREATED science for the good of humanity?

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Man. Wait til he watches the Star Wars prequels and he’s all like “This sucks!”

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