Research published in Sex Roles suggests that male victimhood ideology among
South Koreanmen is driven more by perceived socioeconomic status decline rather than objective economic hardship.
Note: obviously not-all-men. But Iâd like to believe the men here already get that.
So âsocioeconomic status declineâ is a euphemism?
Even more interestingly, the gesture has added salience in the current hyperpatriarchal South Korean context.
I had the good luck to be assigned the mental exercise at an early-enough age: âWhen you talk to people, look for thoughts in your head that arenât about either âlooking goodâ or ânot looking badâ. Notice how rare they are.â Weâre status-focused social animals.
Yep.
It always looks so very unconvincing when men protest too much. âIf nobody mentioned you, what made you think it was aimed at you, my brother? Anything you need to get off your chest?â
This crowd trends older than most online media. I like to also believe that the men here who remember how much worse it was for women in the 80s also remember how there was plenty of âfeminism has gone too farâ back then too. I like to think that song is boring for everyone by now.
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WHEREâS MY PUKE EMOJI
(adding more because it seems I cannot put this alone)
This doesnât feel like a real human even wrote it. Why was it featured? Like do they just give a marquee to any olâ troll? Do they just use AI to spit out the âreader commentâ they think will trend?
Fuck the nyt, thatâs all I know.
They even bothered to come up with a stupid cutesie illustration for it!
This behavior led to my divorce but by golly, I still canât figure out why my natural inclinations to stare while drooling at what gets flaunted right in front of me bother women!
I donât know if a real human wrote it or why it was featured. I do know that the attitude expressed closely resembles things Iâve heard men say when I was closeted and they thought no women were present.
My father, coworkers, and fuck most men Iâve dated have said as much or worse to my face from the age of five or six onward as well as physically and emotionally threatening me if I donât agree⌠Also what people said to me the first couple of times I was cheated on was like âdog will hunt.â
So
Yeah I know. In fact like⌠Letâs all take a moment to look at what girlhood/femmehood actually is without the bows and bullshit pink washing.
Oof⌠But dammit Iâm still going to call out that fucking Nazi-ass rag for potentially creating abusive disinformation for views. Kwim?
I got to hear, âNothing wrong with looking at the menu!â
Yes. If eyes wander, other things will be wandering soon.
Not that I think this is on you, but I think"wandering eyes" (and worse wanderings) is an obnoxious concept. Thatâs not aimless wandering; itâs motivated, purposeful invasiveness.
Canât blame a man for mere wandering eyes, right? Well, yes I can. Theyâre not merely, innocently âwandering.â
This. We are arenât talking about a quick and passing glance of someone attractive. The stare, the double-take, the obvious up-and-down, the failure to make eye contact because they are too busy looking below the neck. Itâs pure objectification and harassment.
If anyone (including the target) notices the guy looking, it isnât harmless. Itâs creepy and gross. The only exception is when it is part of mutual and reciprocating flirtation.
If men had to put up with other men staring at them all the time, theyâd get it.
Yep. The blurring of lines between the guys who feel guilty when they glance at a beautiful girl for a moment and blush and the kind of guy who stands behind a unknown girl, pinches her ass, and winks like itâs all in funâŚ
It makes normal men feel like fEmiNiSm has always gone too far by asking anyone to stop pinching.
Oh, Iâve heard straight dudes talk about being ogled by gay men and then turn right the fuck around and continue to do it to women. THEY are different in that they are people, while women are objects to be lusted after.
Granted. Some men do notice the few times other men objectify them and few of them ever make the connection. Because, like you said, women are objects to them and not people
Thatâs what I was trying to imply.