[ETA] He mentions this discussion in the above…
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Zohran Mamdani leads general election poll for NYC mayor
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/09/zohran-mamdani-leads-general-election-poll-00443469
Democratic nominee Zohran Mamdani holds a 10 point lead over Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s general election for mayor, while incumbent Mayor Eric Adams trails in fourth place behind Republican nominee Curtis Sliwa, according to a new poll.
Mamdani gets support from 35 percent of registered voters, followed by Cuomo with 25, Sliwa with 14, Adams at 11 and attorney Jim Walden at 1 percent. Thirteen percent of respondents said they weren’t sure, while 1 percent picked another candidate.
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Scary, but true. This is the gameplan the right wing used back in the Tea Party days, taking over local politics and working up. Given a practically unlimited checkbook, if Elno actually remains focused on it, it could work. That, however, is the qualifier that (IMHO) will doom it, assuming it even gets off the ground. It will not hold his attention if there are not rapid, measurable results. And there probably will be defeats along the way, which will bruise his ever-so-fragile ego and send him back to his tech bro environs where he is safe.
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He also has to worry if his people will stay bought.
They will be grifters.
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He’s also already told everyone what the agenda is.
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“The middle has a voice now” – my eyes rolled so far back in my head they just popped out and I had to pick them up and shove them back in my skull holes. The Democrats have been the middle party for 50+ years now. It’s the left that doesn’t have its own party, not one of any substantial influence anyway.
I dunno. Maybe we could end up with three viable parties out of this. MAGA/GOP on the far right. Musk’s Stupid Party on the traditional right, comprised of never Trump Republicans and Reagan Democrats, and then a more true left party made up of everyone who stays in the Democratic Party. If we could get ranked choice voting everywhere along with this, it might work.
Of course, it won’t, because this is really just a grift. Just like most other efforts at forming a third party in the last few years. And it always seems to be billionaires pulling this shit. Maybe Musk and Andrew Yang can form a mutual admiration society and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
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I suspect he’ll go further right, dragging everything else to the right…
Right…
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File under: How many narcissists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
trick question - narcissists can’t screw in a light bulb. A narcissist can’t screw in the lightbulb, turn on the light, and hold up a mirror at the same time, and in a group of narcissists sufficient to do those things, they will fight to the death to be the one on the ladder with the light shining on them so they can admire themself in the mirror.
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Only one. To hold the bulb and let the world turn around them.
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Other Democrats have sounded a sharply different tone.
Former New York Gov. David Paterson, in a press conference on Monday, called on mayoral candidates to unite behind one candidate in order to stop Mamdani. He framed Mamdani as “antagonistic” and too inexperienced to run a city as complex as New York.
What the actual fuck, people?!?! This is what democracy looks like!! You don’t have to like it, but you have to abide by the outcomes! Holy shit, you stupid fucks!!
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WTF!?! Adams was caught grifting with the fucking Trump administration, Cuomo is an abuser. That statement should have read “…unite to defeat Silwa…” because, oh, yeah, he’s another grifter and abuser.
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I hope Mamdani gets first position on the ballot- and the other 2 are dead last.
Maybe some of these people not supporting the nominee in favor or other party candidates should leave and join Musk’s party?
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Further down in the article:
Paterson – who supported Cuomo in the primary – brought up a recent suggestion by independent candidate Jim Walden that an independent poll should be run close to the election, and the candidates that lose in the poll would endorse whoever won and stop campaigning.
Oooh! Great idea! They could call it a . . . primary election! Oh wait … THEY ALREADY DID THAT, YOU NUMBSKULL, AND MAMDANI WON! Accept the will of the voters.
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I didn’t make it that far, because he’s standing in front of the flag.
We’ve tried red.
We’ve tried blue.
I was expecting him to slip and say something else at that point…but got this next line instead:
America is ready for something that actually works.
Given what he’s done to so many people who actually work, and his track record for developing things that often don’t (ending with disastrous consequences)…I guess will see who joins his party. 
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As of early July, the state had expensed $20.5 million for the legal defense of Cuomo
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Musk has your flag right here America: Red blood, blue tears… White nationalism.
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The thing is, since he is an outsider he really could make some mistakes. People voted in that risk.
The smart thing to do is to embrace him and try to negotiate with him though since he won. I don’t know anything about New York City but it sounds like they want someone who A) Isn’t associated with a massive level of corruption and B) Talks about local kitchen table politics and the anxieties of day to day life for working people. Cuomo tried to counter that with racism, hyperbole about “the left,” and fear mongering. I think he ran a toxic campaign full of things people, especially democratic voters, are fully sick of seeing/hearing about. But it’s a good opportunity the party to connect with their own base there if they let it be.
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New York City, along with San Francisco, has probably the highest, most compact, inequality in the US. It’s a playground for the ultra-wealthy while at the same time the biggest differential between what would be considered a full-time, minimum wage job and the affordability of anything, especially housing.
It’s not surprising at all that voters would support a Dem-Soc for mayor; what’s surprising is that it hasn’t happened sooner.
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Agreed. Part of the problem is the establishment forces demanding business as usual. They are used to having influence and control. They hate any change that undermines their network. They don’t want to negotiate, their go-to is finding various ways of teaching those they consider to be upstarts a lesson. They have connections, corruption, and deep pockets on their side. We’ll see what they do to prevent the winner from exposing or eliminating their sources of power and profit.
There are some interesting stories of success in various regions. I’m sure there will be more emphasis on that history now. Here’s a past case from NYC:
This WaPo article was also interesting:
Despite efforts from the establishment to undermine them, I hope to see these numbers increase:
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