Elon Musk Destroys Everything

Sounds like Tesla won the lawsuit.

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Per this Tesla lost. Then lost on appeal.

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I’m assuming it was less of a ‘ban’ and more of a ‘we won’t provide you with any vehicles or access’.

Top Gear essentially ignored Tesla for the next several years, and Musk didn’t do himself any favors because of how petty the whole lawsuit was.

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Parts from China needed for the Cybercab and the Semi are just too expensive right now.

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Yeah, as they say “on matters of taste, the customer is always right”. I don’t drive so my interest for cars is more for the outliers: I love the Beetle, both the car and the van, and small cars that probably I won’t fit, specially japanese key cars, that look like toys but tend to be more useful than our equivalents, even in europe. And the smart coupĂ©. I had a friend with one, and it was amazing how fast it feel even when going at relatively leisured speeds (ie 50mph).

The tesla roadster looked like a natural step forward for sport cars, and honestly, seems tesla was mostly the exception. Rich guys want mostly noisy gas guzzlers
 and while I may have a fondness for some of these, I think they are better left in the past (like the steam powered cars!).

Unfortunately we now know this basically was half a grift so Musk could get rich collecting solar credits and other goverment grants for developing the electric car, and
 well, that soured my interest for the brand a lot (and that was around 2009 or something).

Anyway enough digression, let’s go back to musk bashing! :laughing:

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Honestly that sounds like a convenient excuse for failure to deliver on two products that were already hopeless failures regardless of tariffs.

Production of the Tesla semi started in 2022, 3 years behind schedule, and hasn’t exactly ramped up to huge numbers since then. They just announced more production delays and dramatic price increases a month ago, before the tariff war took off.

And as many people pointed out since the moment it debuted, the 2-seat cybercab design is ridiculously impractical for a taxi, even if they miraculously got self-driving to work. Nobody took that vehicle seriously.

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So gross
this is a puke emoji scenario to be sure.

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Ah yes, the ‘an Asian woman is better than a white woman because she’ll be subservient and not a feminist’ assumption is the one time a white supremacist like this is willing to cross the color line.

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(Not directed at @chgoliz , but at the all too many men who believe this)

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I’ve seen it argued those stereotypes tend to match where America sent its last draft, and so the soldiers largely came to know the local women from prostitutes. Lots of Koreans and Vietnamese who were nice and subservient to them because how else were they going to make it through. :disappointed:

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but subscription-based defense models go back a long way. Paying tributes, hiring mercenaries
 Arguably, paying taxes that finance a standing army


And every complex high tech system ever. Vendor lock-in at its finest. Cut off the spare parts and everything turns into lawn ornaments. This stuff only keeps working if the “owners” and operators keep paying, one way or another. Subscription by any other name would still smell as sweet cost as much.

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