Kinda Commie Memes

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That’s not how Franco died, is it?

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Nop, as I posted on the link, today marks the 51st anniversary of ETA (the armed branch of the vasque separatist forces, so a bit like the spanish IRA) managed to launch Carrero Blanco’s (Franco’s ~groomed~ appointed successor) 35 meters into the air.

This was a bit hit to Franco, who scrambled to find a candidate who would not instantly generate the kind of hate that Carrero enticed in the population, and who was willing to continue the dictatorship. He chose former king Juan Carlos I, who basically renounced to be “caudillo” and restored a democratic monarchy as soon as he received the baton. As much as we can say it was a self-preserving move - there was not only internal pressure from communists, socialists, even royalists, but also external pressure as Europe was not happy¹ in having a dictator in their Union - the fact remains that we enjoyed a “mostly peaceful” (if you exclude the years of CIA-backed right-wing paramilitary groups exerting violence) transition.

¹But not unhappy enough to oust him out by the force of arms. Franco having the backing of the US kept him in place but the writing was on the wall long time before his passing.

PS: I also want to use this space to communicate that Generalissimo Franco is still dead. We moved his corpse from the impressive mausoleum he built for himself in Cuelgamuros to a more private and secret place so Right Wing parties cannot go and pay respects, and we verified he was not ressurrected or lychified. We had our doubts.

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Thanks for explaining! And sorry about the right-wing paramilitary groups. :sweat:

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To directly answer the question, as almost all US-backed dictators, he died peacefully in his sleep, his legacy secured, after inflicting almost 5 decades of suffering unto the spanish population.

Fun fact, we can say that kissinger is two degrees removed from Hitler, as Franco personally befriended both :laughing:

Kissinger and Ford personally visited Franco to know if they could stage troops in Spain’s frontier with Portugal as they were worried with the fall of Salazar’s dictatorship -being replaced with a clearly leftist democracy. Franco politely denied the request, but seems they remained in contact enough time. Kissinger is credited with convincing Franco of selecting Juan Carlos I as its successor after the death of Carrero Blanco.

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It’s not like you could have done anything :laughing:

Maybe is naïve but I don’t adscribe to that whole “sins of the fathers” thing that some people has. Otherwise I guess I should ask forgiveness for spaniards discovering america, killing half of the population with poxes and a third more with arms and pillaging it for 300 years. Someone has to step off the wheel of karma at some point :slight_smile:

I also would add I was too young to experience the right-wing paramilitary groups violence, but old enough to have survived a close encounter with at least one ETA terror-strike, even though I was seven so I don’t remember much.

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While we can’t do anything about the past, I think the best thing we can do is to acknowledge what the USA as a country has done to the rest of the world. As taught in most(?) high schools, our history texts have that same strange phenomenon as newspaper stories about our police; things don’t have a cause, they just happened somehow. It’s little surprise some people consider colleges to be “indoctrination” centers. In many cases it’s the first time in their lives the students have been presented with facts and asked to actually draw conclusions instead of just being fed bland nationalism.

Actually talking about our adventures in nation building isn’t for the purpose of assigning guilt, but about working to ensure we stop doing these things. And yeah, I know that’s why teaching actual history in lower level schools is unlikely to happen.

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Completely agree. That’s why i said no sorry is needed.

Switching gears…

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also this

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Glances at the Vox party

Are you sure about that? Could we maybe try burying it even deeper?

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That’s the unfortunate result of the infamous pact of forgetting extending a blanket pardon and zero consequences to participants in the francoist regime. It enabled a “peaceful transition” but young generations grew up knowing nothing about what happened, so when spain opened its doors to inmigration (we went from about 1% to a bit over 10% in two decades), combined with the 2001, 2008-2014 and 2020 crises well, it was inevitable that the right-wing took refuge in the “good old times”.

And we don’t have many tools to explain to the new generations what was bad because there are no resources :frowning:

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This is a basic take on Marxism, based on what he actually wrote…

Might be useful for countering all this “M4rXiZt R cOMiNg 4 oUr WiMmIMZ” nonsense…

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I keep getting these videos…

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