Your comments here are genuinely creepy, no matter how ‘benign’ your intent allegedly is; your blase ideas about prepubescent sexuality are making me uncomfortable, and it’s not because I’m “insecure or projecting.”
Fuck off.
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We could have a serious discussion on expanding the rights of children and I personally feel like they need to be greatly expanded. Voting age, religious freedom, privacy, and yes, sexual freedom.
But talking about the “right” of a 15 year old to sleep with 30 year olds is an extremely terrible jumping off point.
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You really don’t listen, do you? Not all of us got that “protective treatment”, and not having it SUCKED. We are TELLING you, from personal experience, that this is a bad bad bad thing. And you make snitty comments about flying crockery.
This isn’t even sea lioning. It’s just willfully saying creepy things in an effort to be radder than thou.
Congratulations, you’ve made the whole thread about you by being a repulsive creep, and doubly repulsive for claiming anyone who doesn’t agree with you is repressed and damaged.
That’s what abusers do to their victims, by the way. I’m starting to seriously wonder if maybe you know that and are advocating for a world where it’s easier for abusers to do that.
Nothing “straitjacket”-y about it.
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I wouldn’t say that. There are sociopaths who use morality to bludgeon others. And I reject morality but am not (IMO & FWIW) a sociopath.
Sociopaths reject ethics.
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I have no doubt popo’s implied upbringing was none too good for the psyche; however, popo comes of as a shitty Milo clone or that 13 in class who insists that square mustache man did no wrong.
FWIW, the commonly used definition of a sociopath is: somebody who feels no empathy, someone who harms and manipulates others.
But maybe I’m just dog piling. Or maybe they’re just so gosh darn wrong and people can’t restrain themselves from posting a response.
My close friend suffered childhood sexual abuse. But my friend also has done everything to become a moral and just person rather than to perpetuate the grave crimes and injustices. It is in the capability of every individual to choose the way of righteousness; there are many schools of philosophy, ethics, and religion that will help guide them.
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Here I was thinking you have giant balls of steel to question this particular eternal verity, but what, you’re actually surprised that some folks aren’t prepared to be all detached and intellectual about it?
This is as hot-button as hot-button issues get - it takes balls of steel to even just like one or two of your comments on the subject. Reasonable folks lose their shit on this one.
I agree that in principle, there’s value in questioning every assumption, and I know people are putting words in your mouth and distorting your position, but nonetheless I’m gonna have to distance myself from it a bit.
Sure, the notion that 17 years and 364 days is too young under any circumstances doesn’t go back all that far, and may well not last many centuries unmodified, but if you look at how universal and deeply held the emotive dogma is around it, it’s obvious the price of questioning it is prohibitive.
No good is likely to come of this.
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BTW, what’s the [LNN] in the thread title mean?
Lounge News Network. In the pre-category days, it was a way for distinguishing news articles (with a snarky tone) from other content.
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That’s a fawning way to say “hey, nice post supporting adults fucking goddamn children.” You may want to rethink your policy of blindly supporting the popo before you wind up supporting violence against minorities. #BlueNamesMatter
Edit:
Socialists were often between a rock and hard space, since fledgling socialist state were unfairly accused of things like babu eating. Blindly defending the Soviet union was a bad idea, though their knee jerk response was understandable.
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See what I mean, Popo?
Look at this fucken shit.
Polite benefit of the doubt? Pff, he said something I can misconstrue as excusing kiddy fiddling. Pitchfork sharpened, torch lit.
Tino, pull your head in, dude. One thing I am fucking never, is fawning.
It seems we have very few true SF fans here after all; I don’t see anyone who’s taken ‘all laws are local’ to heart.
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I went against my better judgement to say anything here… I can see it now: three dozen posts required to clarify my position on the matter, dammit
And now, in a shocking turn of events, the very moderators of /r/3dshacks who approved the original article have deleted it with the excuse of not wanting to put people off 3ds modding. You can’t make this shit up!
https://www.reddit.com/r/3dshacks/comments/67evbs/an_explanation_of_current_events_myself/
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This shit’s fucken radioactive.
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Archived version of original article: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/un69v
After TheCruel being arrested and convicted AGAIN for cp possession and distribution, I can understand wanting to examine the people around you. And it turns out the moderators of /r/3dshacks are not people I want to be around.
Even the name 3dshacks has a slightly creepy ring to it… Try it on something else; eg, teddy bear hacks.
I can see how it might attract dodgy types.
Oh yes. To make this even creepier, it wasn’t as if they had propositioned at random and whoops, asked a 15 year old. Perp had begun sexually explicit conversations while aware target was 14. Perp had obviously planned ahead of time and checked age of consent laws with Wikipedia. At best, perp was so extremely negligent. Most likely just a monster.
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The kinds of members who are tolerated by community leaders despite their consistently crappy and creepy behaviour are called “missing stairs.” Here’s a recent example from a SF convention. There are many reasons why they’re permitted to stick around, but most often it seems a genuine desire by people who were marginalised and excluded themselves (e.g. various geek and kink and academic subcultures) to be as inclusive as possible – to a fault.
But enough about what’s going on in this thread. It sounds like /r/3dshacks has its own serious problem in this regard.
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Um, the culture of teenage girls having sexual activity with older men has been around for a looooong time (how old was Adam before he had that ribectomy, I wonder?). I can’t explain it
I was 16 in 1980. Boys my age considered me ugly, and if any of ‘em didn’t, they sure didn’t tell me. I also hung out with adults because there was no one my age to hang out with; my brother’s seven years older than I, and Mom and Dad were 38 and 41, respectively, when I was born. I was precocious intellectually. I later on had “daddy” issues big-time. So older men - like 21 and over - being attracted to me because to them, yeah, I was pretty in their, and yeah, I could talk with big words and understand them…well, for someone like me, that was pert’ near irresistible.
Needless to say, not all of those men had my best interests at heart. I’m not saying I wasn’t preyed upon, because I was; but I can’t honestly say that I wasn’t treated as an equal by some of them, because I was. Now, at the age of 52, and 20/15 hindsight, I can see that um, I was majorly fucked-up in the head and the heart (though some of my peers…whoah, went off.the.charts!); but my dad was having an affair, and the rest of us weren’t seeing the elephant, and, blahblahblah.
Older men and women who aren’t emotionally developed enough to be able to have healthy-as-possible relationships with their peers are gonna turn to younger ones. And there’s gonna be young men and women who think they’re grown-up enough to deal with older ones as equals. There are occasions when it actually works out, but for the most part, uh NO.
Ever hear of Sable Starr? To me, she was so sad.
And all of this, as is usual, is IMNSHO, fwthiw.
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I was a virgin till I was 17.5, btw. Most of my peers had lost their cherries by age 13; a few’d gotten pregnant by 15. So, I was still odd. How sick is is that virgins and sluts of both and any genders were and still are shamed for being virgins or sluts (sorry, off-topic, but fingers wouldn’t stop)?
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Hm. I’ve been thinking a bit about somebody I know, who at 14 created a dating profile. Children really have no concept of how short time is, nor how exploitative and abusive some people can be; this is why we have laws against providing minors with alcohol, laws against child endangerment, and especially why we have statutory rape laws against relationships like the one outline in the original post.
As a teenager, there was a vast chasm of experience and knowledge in a two year age gap. Though I am also the same age as the pred, I cannot relate to them at all.
One of my contacts from an old gaming clan complains to me that nobody will date them - on a daily basis. I can understand not wanting to be alone or feeling left out. But there is nothing magical about getting it on; it will not invest you with the full powers of adulthood nor the experience to navigate it. My wise old mentor taught me the value of patience. I only wish damn kids would learn the same.
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