Not Feminism 101

and do not even get me started on the FLDS.

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And they are not the only offshoot of the main LDS church that practices such things.

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I am all up for religious freedom, but not as a shield against prosecution for activities that are illegal regardless of faith.

Unfortunately, we rarely prosecute these things,* regardless of whether religion is involved. That needs to happen more often.

*crimes against minors, forcible confinement, abuse, etc.

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It looks like Make has issued a real apology to Naomi this time…

https://makezine.com/2017/11/19/apology-to-naomi-wu/

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That’s great!

But the call to action at the end of the letter, eek… does that mean he hasn’t seen that viral Twitter thing from last week about how the “maker movement” is exclusive and sexist by design?

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Further in the “maker” debate, this was announced today:

EDC (for those who don’t know), stands for Everyday Carry, and this is a bag to enable maker-types to easily transport the stuff they bring with them, everyday, such as wallet, spare keys, small tools, maybe a flashlight, those kinds of things.

Or, as women have called it for ages: a purse.

FEATURES:

Pencil holder/pocket on the inside
Magnets hold the handles together upright
Wide spring steel supported clamshell mouth

Para-aramid synthetic fiber reinforced base

Hook and loop on the inside bottom to add functionality

Hook and loop on the outside for patch and identification
Machine washable

Yup, that’s a purse. A nice one, I am sure, but this is not a great innovation in carrying things.

I like Adam, he does seem interested in getting girls on a STEAM track (not just STEM, he understands how the arts fit in), But putting a fancy, maker-y sounding name on it does not change what this essentially is.

And how sad is it that I am seeing men comparing this like women do purses, but they would deny vehemently that this is one. No, it must be different, because real men, maker men don’t carry purses.

SMH.

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As a purse user, I think the clam shell opening with zipper is a questionable choice.

Flaps & magnets or GTFO.

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Oh, I am not saying that’s the world’s best designed purse ever, but I have seen worse. It’s just the hoops that guys are jumping through, to claim this is somehow special.

No, most women have a closet full of them, of varying utility. And we do carry our daily tools in them.

Mine has: mechanical pencil, multiple pens, notebook, 2 multi-tools (one with pliers, one with hexes), lip balm, benadryl, zantac, gum, emergency feminine supplies (can also double as bandages in a real emergency!), flashlight, keys, windproof lighter, two mirrors (also good for emergencies) a hair brush, elastics, flosser picks and holds my phone and wallet when they aren’t in use.

But I don’t call it anything other than a purse.

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It seems actually to be a small Gladstone bag, as used by William Ewart himself and generations of doctors. The canvas version, usually quite a bit bigger, was used by tradesmen like joiners for their tools. Nowadays they’re made of tear resistant nylon and you can get a good one for around $75.

Not arguing with you in any way, it is a purse, just a big one, except that it lacks the reinforced frame around the opening that makes the real thing so useful. And of course those of us who had to do Chaucer and Shakespeare at school know the other connotation of the word purse, which is presumably why some men don’t want to be associated with having one.:grin:

Anyway, I showed it to my pretentiousness meter and now it needs a new needle and end stop.

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Reinforced frames declined in popularity around the same time as the girdle. A lot of purses are identical to messenger bags in structure.

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Sorry, I was referring to Gladstone bags and was unclear.
Proper Gladstone bags stay wide open so it’s easy to see what’s in them, get things out and put them back. Bags with zip tops are much less use in that respect.

Now I want a proper Gladstone bag again.

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From the description:
“Wide spring steel supported clamshell mouth”

That sounds like the sort of reinforcing you describe.

I’ve had a tool bag like this for years.

It has many advantages over a toolbox, when you just want to toss in a mixture of tools to carry to a specific job. It cost about 1/7 as much as Adam Savage’s version, and won’t show the dirt as much. Of course, it doesn’t “come wrapped in tissue paper printed with a drawing of my original toolboxes.”

I have no problem with calling a purse a purse, but to me that brings up an image of a particular style and method of carry. (Just don’t call it a man-purse or a “murse”, or I will purse my lips at you.) My requirements are met by either a small backpack (better for tools, gear and clothing) or a thirty-year-old Eddie Bauer nylon briefcase (better for papers, books, etc.). Before I got the nylon case, I commuted to work with my “leather lunch pail”. Messenger bags seem to be unisex these days.

All these items serve overlapping functions, but are called different things because of their differing designs. Of course, for men the ubiquity of pockets in their clothing means that things like wallet, keys, and occasionally phones are not carried in a separate bag.

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Hilariously, most women I know are opting for backpacks these days. Cuz we carry around so much stuff!
Shoulder bags just throw your spine out of whack, and we like to have our hands free!

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I have determined that number for myself.

That number is zero.

Why is this so hard to do?

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I can carry wallet, keys, pens, small pad of paper, phone, and some emergency meds. Anything more than that (books, larger papers, umbrella, maybe a to-go coffee cup or food container, etc) I will need a briefcase or (more likely) a backpack. But that probably says more about my sense of organization or clutter than anything else.

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I follow a link upthread, I find this photo;

Am I just bad at reading emotions or did someone design a sex doll that looks like she’s in a state of panic?

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The same here but I claim no particular credit. My father is a feminist.

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No ruler, multimeter and multilobe screwdrivers?

No, it isn’t, it’s just a cloth covered spring. The metal needs to be on the outside so when you accidentally miss with dropping in a saw, the cloth or leather doesn’t get damaged. Having a wimpy zip on the outside is an accident waiting to happen.

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