Over/Under-rated movies: the redux

As far as I’m concerned Toecutter somehow survived that head-on with a semi and later returned with the new alias of Immortan Joe. I don’t care if George Miller agrees with me or not.

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My daughter and I have been watching horror movies lately.
We watched Suspira - both the OG and a recent remake; we watched The Witch, which I enjoyed SO MUCH because I took a course in Salem Witchcraft and it was a fantastic way to step into their vision of the world.
We watched the Japanese original version of The Ring.
None of these were all that scary.
We wanted a movie that would scare the pants off us.
So, we watched The Exorcist.
And, maybe it’s just been too spoilered and too riffed on, but it was NOT scary in the least. I was so disappointed. The blood and vomit looked so fake, the story didn’t make a whole lot of sense, and it wasn’t very creepy.

Maybe you need to watch horror in a movie theater with other scared people?

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I want to recommend a Sean Connery movie that doesn’t come up much, if at all. It’s called Outland (1981), tone-wise it’s a mix of Sci-fi + a western sheriff trying and barely keeping the peace + a noir story, akin to a detective trying to untangle a conspiracy. It may not blow your socks off, but i had zero expectations when i saw it and by the end of it i was really on board. Really enjoyed how grounded and unpretentious it was.

The story is of a Federal Marshall (Connery) stationed in a mining colony on the Jupiter moon Io. He’s trying to untangle a criminal web that’s threatening to overtake the colony. I’ve you’ve seen it i’d like to hear your thoughts on it :slight_smile:

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Personally, I found the original Ring scary! Suspira is less scary and much more atmospheric (which ever version)… for myself, two of the scariest movies I saw in recent years were the Innkeepers and I am the Pretty Thing that lives in the house:

I love horror films, even ones I don’t find scary… But lots of horror films rely on gore, but both of these I found more unsettling than the ones you mentioned… I also found The Haunting of Hill House (on netflix) to be pretty creepy and unsettling… It’s a great series if you’ve not watched that yet.

I wonder if most of us are so familiar with horror tropes at this point that it’s hard to actually be scared of such films…

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Perhaps a different approach?

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Recently got into Petzold

I’m almost afraid to learn the truth about lectures at the SenSBW. Or about Heinrich Heine.

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Oh, now that’s a feel-good romp if ever there was one!

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I agree! I also liked the fact that it wasn’t focused on the science and technology side of the story - they’re mining Io, with everything that implies (space travel being the least of it), but it’s a story about the people. Not much character development beyond Connery’s character and the doctor (Frances Sternhagen), but that sort of feeds the sense of the miners as just interchangable components.

Another Connery film I really like is Medicine Man, which also stars Lorraine Bracco.

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Hangover Square (John Brahm 1945)

A promising young classical composer suffers violent dissociative episodes when subjected to discordant sounds.

20th Century Fox’s follow-up to 1944’s The Lodger, with the same killer (Laird Cregar), detective (George Sanders), scriptwriter (Barré Lyndon), director and a similar period setting. Reportedly, a very unfaithful adaptation of Patrick Hamilton’s novel, but still a very good film in its own right. Cregar, in his last role before his untimely death, does a great job as the lead, who keeps audience sympathy by not realizing what he does during his blackouts. Linda Darnell almost outshines him as the music hall singer who seduces and betrays him. (This horror/thriller has got more than a bit of noir in it.)

Marvelous bits include Guy Fawkes Night and the even more fiery Grand Guignol climax, which features excellent use of Bernard Herrmann’s Concerto Macabre, written especially for the film.

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Afire is probably one of my favorite movies ever. I don’t think I have ever seen a better exploration of being an asshole.

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I loved it as a subversion of the atomic-age monster movie - “what if, instead of becoming giant, they got their shit together in a way we can’t and started cooperating?”

For the complete psychedelic experience it’s worth finding a version with the restored original ending. Four minutes on-par with the end of 2001.

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I saw Phase IV decades ago on BBC2 or Channel 4; I remember getting a similarly trippy-apocalyptic feel from The Last Wave.

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[laugh/cry gif]

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A Bucket of Blood (Roger Corman 1959)

Dimwitted busboy Walter Paisley (Dick Miller) stumbles into artistic success by converting the bodies of his victims into statues.

Probably the best version of House of Wax, Corman made this right before Little Shop of Horrors. Nearly as great as its more famous follow-up. Perhaps a tad less funny, but this is a satire rather than a freewheeling farce, taking on the Beats, the art world, and Corman’s own creative ambitions. Great work from that guy Dick Miller, who never again got to play such a developed character. Do not fail to dig that crazy beatnik poetry!

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My frequent choice for a Connery triple feature is The Man Who Would Be King:

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the remake with Anthony Michael Hall was actually pretty good

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A New York reporter (Jennifer Jason Leigh) returns to her long-ago abandoned hometown after her mother (Kathy Bates) is accused of killing her employer. Many flashbacks ensue. Based on a Stephen King novel.

Kathy Bates and Jennifer Jason Leigh do battle against a string of cliches. The cast, also including Judy Parfitt, Christopher Plummer, David Strathairn, and John C. Reilly, does good enough work to make it watchable.

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It’s been a long time since I read the book or saw the movie, but I seem to remember thinking the movie was actually better than the book, which is rare.

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:man_shrugging: Never read the book. Don’t recall previously knowing anything about the plot other than there was an abusive husband, but I still managed to predict almost all of it as it went along.

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