Beats me, but there’s a reason I upgraded last turn, knowing the Ball was this month (and a reason I left that post unposted until the last minute, to avoid giving people the same idea).
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Well, fiddlesticks. No biggie, if @messana sez them’s the rules, then I’ll just nag the mayor instead of the governor, but I’ll still smirk at those who think a car rental is more influential than The Right Address, even if it does still smell of drying paint.
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Obviously you are seen in the carriage upon your arrival, thus making an immediate impression that allows you access to a more refined dining experience.
Whereas the apartment, while nice and longer lasting is something that must be seen and proven by your peers and betters to believe that you have actually made it into society.
Yes, yes, it is terribly superficial, but why else does one see so many flash sports cars in otherwise run down apartment complexes.
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Piffle. None of us are so nouveau as to be taken in by such an obvious ploy, which could be undertaken by any Sea Pea with the effrontery to swipe their mentors’ debit card out of a greatcoat pocket.
You all (ahem) know who I am.
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The intended effect is:
Apartment rank bonuses are permanent and are applied at the end of the turn and are ‘permanent-ish’.
Carriages and other temporary bonuses are applied immediately, available for the duration of the turn, and do not carry over to the next round.
This will allow individuals the option to attend swankier events than they would be able to at the moment and help bridge the sudden shift from an income-focused to a rank-focused game phase.
Precisely this. “Ohhh, I do believe the Governor himself has a sudden opening at his table and he’d be delighted for someone of your means to join him.”
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I don’t suppose Mr. Boulderclaw has a book open on this affair?
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Well, I understand the intent but the logic is shaky. Apartment rank bonuses last as long as you rent the apartment (just like carriage bonuses last as long as you rent the carriage… or, I imagine, longer since the round ostensibly lasts a season and the Governor’s Ball is probably just for the night, but whatever). The only practical difference is that one’s apartment lease renews automatically every round unless one actively cancels it by moving out… but one still has to pay for that bonus every single round. In a way, establishing a pecking order by show-offy owned real estate would make more sense. A rented car being more impressive than a rented apartment strikes me as a superficiality too far, if you take my meaning.
But the rules are the rules and I’ll live by 'em without complaint.
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Another difference being that you don’t lose additional Rank for returning your carriage, but you do for downsizing your apartment.
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Richies are weird.
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And carriage rentals are very expensive, in relation to apartments.
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I just looked, for laffs. I can rent a Ferrari 458 Italia for $1495 for 3 days (Monday thru Thursday–then it bumps up to $3750 for weekends).
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You do? I mean, on top of just getting the lower Rank boost, do you get penalized on top of that?
Well, one would almost hope one could then get a Rank boost for upsizing.
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Yep, and I get the impression that that Rank drop is permanent:
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I thought so, but I couldn’t find that reference. Thanks!
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I disagree, @Donald_Petersen. For an apartment move, the status effect should apply at the end of a turn (or, more precisely, at the beginning of the next).
Status must be established.
A proper move takes time
You must arrange for the apartment ( have you even worked with an Estate Agent in London? even now, the process is sllooowww).
Then you must transfer not only your possessions, but your staff, and all the personal connections that keep a Great House humming. (eg. a milk man, a green grocer, a butcher, a dustman, and a source of fresh eggs is but a partial list just for the cook)
Only THEN you can start hosting and establishing your place in the hierarchy.
It takes about a season.
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And yet any jumped-up newt with a scrounged fistful of pickpocketed banknotes for an hour’s hire of a flash carriage can land a seat at the Governor’s elbow.
A truly deplorable excuse for a “Society.”
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I’m confused; are you complaining, or grateful?
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Well! I never.
At any rate here I find myself being schooled on the workings of High Society by those of a sub-500 Rank. I, a Lizard with a ranking of 661, in a round that is meant to emphasize rank more than monetary influence, must suffer the grasping claws of the grubby coach-renters with a few pounds to spare, leaping for influence over the well-established citizenry of high rank such as myself.
No. I do not complain, and certainly not to the likes of you.
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Not so much; the maximum temporary Rank bonus from a carriage is 150; I have the third-highest Rank (by a considerable margin), and I could only make it to the Mayor’s table at best (and I can’t even do that without taking on debt).
<pleasing hum> can dine with the Governor by invite; Ms. Honeyvenom can dine with the Mayor by invite or the Governor through renting a fancy carriage; none of the rest of us can aspire any higher than Ms. Applethwaite’s.
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Considering that the rank requirements for the dinners were designed with this knowledge fully at hand, it is interesting to consider what “provide input” actually means.
If pleasing hum dines with the Governor or Mayor and actually has an effect on what the Governor or Mayor does, it’d likely be negative for everyone else. I’m not sure if that’s what it really means though (or how such an effect would be determined). If it does, Ms. Honeyvenom’s claw may be forced - she’d have to attend whichever dinner pleasing hum does to hopefully counterbalance, or potentially be blamed herself for any negative result.
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