Roe vs Wade overturned

… who voted when is a matter of public record

Fact-check: Did Trump vote by mail for the 2020 election?

Trump Votes By Mail In Florida After Criticizing Practice : NPR

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He should make up his mind then. Never mind.

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But then he can’t pander to his base while also trying to appear reasonable to the center and left! And then where would we be?!?

Lately, the only political advertising flyers we’ve received have been pro-Trump ones claiming that Harris wants unfettered abortion at any time, forcing taxpayers to fund abortions, even after birth. :roll_eyes:

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I wonder, has anyone attempted to knock him off? Just curious.

And Wrong DeSatan is another reason for retroactive birth control.

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What a horrible way to treat a person.

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Yeah and that is sadly going to become more common.

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I wonder how many women have died from complications during pregnancy?

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We really need those other reaction icons . . . :rage:

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On the one hand, this is outrageous and unforgivable. On the other, the providers are in a literal no-win situation. The law is intentionally vague on exactly what “imminent threat” means, specifically to keep docs from knowing where the line is. The only way they can protect themselves is to effectively put up a “no pregnant people” sign outside their EDs and offices. This sort of thing is why so many docs are fleeing TX and FL. Most of us cannot in good conscience provide subpar care, but equally are very reluctant to put themselves in a place where a DA looking to establish MAGAt cred prosecutes them for saving a pregnant patient at the cost of the fetus. There are some truly heroic docs willing to take that chance, but most of us are not in that category. It sucks. No way around it. But it will happen more and more until MAGA delenda est.

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The way the law is written, anyone practicing prenatal medicine if any sort just cannot offer any intervention at any point in pregnancy witloophout facing draconian consequences. If Mom survives, there is no possible way to prove that she would have died without intervention. They can always find someone to testify that the D&C was not necessary. The only answer i see is to get out of the state. Which sucks for pregnant people there, but I’m not certain makes it any worse…

If you don’t follow MDJ, you should.

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Detailed discussion of these cases. TW needed, she is a doctor and discussed incredibly sad and gory things in a very clinical manner. You have been warned.

The key here is that the law is written so that there does not even have to be a viable fetus to act against the docs. If it was not a spontaneous abortion, the mom cannot be helped.

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