Roe vs Wade overturned

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Does it work on ectopic pregnancies?

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Unfortunately, no.
Use of Mifepristone for Treatment of Ectopic Pregnancy - Letters to the Editor - American Family Physician.

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I would think the Indians could do whatever they wanted, ie casinos.

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Itā€™s obvious that they are using this ruling to move into a theocracy. There is no exception for religion, either. As a Jew, we believe that live begins at birth, not conception.

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Welllā€¦to be super-literal here (as well as playing Satanā€™s advocate)ā€¦

Life does begin in the wombā€¦and we know that fetuses respond to stimuli in utero (at the age of 16 weeks ), so theyā€™re aware and conscious; but when does self-awareness/consciousness occur? Well after birth, am I correct? I mean, from my own personal experience, Iā€™d say that starts around the age of 1.5 - 2 years.

But a fetus doesnā€™t think as a born human does. Itā€™s just a bunch of cells gathering up to form a human being. Its potential to add or detract from society as a human being doesnā€™t even start until it can firmly grasp objects and walk.

As for the soul? I ask, instead of answer that with: If one isnā€™t self-aware/conscious, how can one know oneā€™s own soul?

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In any case, itā€™s no one elseā€™s bloody business to decide what a woman (or anyone else) can or canā€™t do with their own body!

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I keep seeing these posts to delete period trackers but no one is talking about this - new privacy notice from Blue Cross/Blue Shield TN.

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This is when going back to a hard copy calendar w/a red pen/pencil is a good ideaā€¦

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Itā€™s the insurance company - so, who cares about your apps? If every time you see the dr or midwife you use your insurance, they can turn your records over to the government.

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So what good is HIPAA then?

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Thatā€™s the thing - Roe v. Wade assured the right to privacy. With it being overturned, HIPPA is very compromised. This is why I am moving to Israel. This is fascism.

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Until it breathes normally or can be cared for adequately given the lack and the bills are pre-paid, itā€™s a growth. If it gives no hope and has none itself, itā€™s just a growth.

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I read these attempts to define this magic point when one might consider an embryo or fetus a baby or person. There is no scientific or religious answer to this question.

It is immaterial.

Nobody can define this for another person. The person who is pregnant is the sole arbiter of the status of their condition. No other opinion matters here, and nobody else should ever be allowed to dictate this to another person. Period.

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Hope for the one being grown on; I should have been more specific. Which is usually the social difficulty with these conversations.

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Agree. Iā€™d say itā€™s even simpler than that - bodily autonomy in general.

Even if it would save someoneā€™s life, the state canā€™t force you to give up one of your organs to do an organ transplant or even do a blood transfusion. So the whole ā€œwhen/how you define ā€˜lifeā€™ā€ question isnā€™t even relevant. The state just does not have that authority over your bodily autonomy. Not even in some misguided attempt to save another life.

And certainly not just because a few wealthy and powerful people think they should have that right to do whatever they want with everyone elseā€™s bodies.

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I wish that men had the ability to carry a fetus to term. There is nothing in this world quite like being pregnant and delivering a child - not a hangover, not being fat, not being constipated - nothing. (even I have to admit - what an understatement!)

Because itā€™s getting tiresome, hearing men discuss something they really donā€™t ā€œgetā€ - no matter how many papers are written about it or documentaries or how great a relationship they may have with their female partners. I do appreciate that there are men who sincerely want to help women achieve bodily autonomy, but after a while it just seems like so many yipping puppies.

And itā€™s men who fertilize the eggs that become fetuses, so of course they should have some sort of say in itā€¦but stillā€¦

okay, Iā€™m done.

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My mother has told me that she felt it when all four of us ā€œbecame peopleā€ or ā€œour souls entered our bodiesā€ which sounds like going from fetus to baby. She knew, though not how, she just knew. She said it was around 20 weeks, all four times.

She is an excellent mom, but none of us would be here at all if she hadnā€™t had access to an abortion about 2 years before she met my father. If sheā€™d had that baby (which she did not want to have), she never would have gone to my birth country or met my father.

That was pre-Roe, but in California. She went to a psychiatrist and told them that she worried she would harm herself or the baby if she was forced to give birth. Being a pretty, middle class white woman, she was believed and trusted, and MediCal even paid for the abortion. It was a world of difference from her older sister who (at about 16) had a trip to a Tijauana back alley place, and then had to go out for dinner with the family that same day, so no one would suspect.

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