Speaking of Faith: discussions on religion (broadly defined)

Here is the article he’s discussing in this clip…

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FTA:

“It fails because people are scared to do the right thing. In James, my favourite book of the Bible, there’s a bit that says that anybody who knows the right thing and fails to do it, commits sin. And that’s the problem at the heart of this Church.”

This could be said about so, so very many in churches across the world right now. And most specifically in white Evangelical churches here in the US. I do not believe for a moment that no one in them has seen the evil in the current administration. But it is easier to just go along with the crowd.

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For them, it seems to be a case of the ends justifying the means… they are fine going along with Trump, because they think he’s going to deliver unto them the end times, which they so desperately want. It’s the religious version, I think, of actually wanting to live in historically tumultuous times, because it’s exciting and not boring, and it means that they get to heaven to live with their weird ass version of Jesus sooner.

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scared hand on face GIF by The Maury Show

You may be right. I tend to be more generous with benefit of the doubt. Cowardly vs. just plain evil. But wrong regardless.

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They may see evil in the current administration, but its also going out of its way to put power in these religious communities. And its also telling them it’ll fulfill long desired goals. That temptation is enough to shove aside any morals, as Mindy said… if the ends justify the means who cares?

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the sooner, the better, i say…

i know it has been said in these threads many times, but what exactly is it that makes these evangelical xtian ethno-nationalist twits believe the he ( and it is always “he” in their minds) needs their goddamn “help” in bringing him around to kill everyone on the planet that ain’t them?!
i mean, if this “god” is infallible, yet works in “mysterious ways”, WTF is aiding and cheering the self-destruction of civilization, the entire planet and all life on it, going to accomplish?! rapture? riiight. ted fucking cruz and MTG and all those twats get to leave before the rest of us burn while they laugh it up with maga jeebus.
this idiotic worldview is just so fucking nonsensical it defies any basic understanding of… anything!
i cannot wrap my head around any of it.

disclosure: i am not christian. i do not ascribe to any religious “faith”. but make no mistake, i know that karma is real and what we put forth into the world will be revisited upon us - just not by some vengeful, wrathful skydaddy, bent on beating us all into adoration of him.why the fuck would i want to spend an eternity with a sumbitch like that?

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i want to add that i do not begrudge the actual faithful who follow the teachings of their Christ. true believers are not the xtian zionist evangelical christofascists.
that’s all I have to say about that

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Now that’s a clickbait title!

So far I’ve mostly encountered Christian and occasionally Jewish comparative-religion channels. Any other suggestions?

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atheism a branch of Protestantism

say what? (didn’t watch the video, so maybe this is isn’t necessarily the conclusion)

I grew up in a minimally Protestant home but figured out my own lack of belief from an interest in science. Never looked back. So imagine there are people from other religious backgrounds who go through analogous philosophical changes.

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It isn’t, but I am convinced you can tell which sect atheists used to be in by how they act. Ex-evangelicals tend to over-proselytise, some of them also keep the evangelical RWA attitudes. I’m ex liberal CofE, so these attitudes are a red flag.

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FWIW, I am Christian, and cannot understand a word that comes out of these idiots’ pie-holes. There is no support in Jesus’ words for the vile hate that they spew. He was just a brown-skinned, middle eastern socialist Jew, and MAGAts would hate him on sight.

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That’s interesting. Are there any any tell-tale signs of a second (or greater) generation Atheist, someone who was brought up by nonbelieving parents? Or do they just get a diluted version of the residual effects from both parents?

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waves hand that’s me, my parents got a mix of Catholic and CoE upbringing, but wanted nothing to do with it by the time I was born.

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I honestly don’t know. Probably a diluted version if the parents are non-proselytising atheists.

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The short answer is no, but

  • Modern western athiesm emerged in the Protestant milieu,

  • Both try to rid themselves of unfounded and/or unnecessary traditions,

  • Both include tendencies which emphasize literal interpretations of religious texts, and see literary and allegorical interpretations as weaker.

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Jesus fuck, this is absolutely fucked.

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Meanwhile at Mount Olympus, the Greeks learn about Roman religion.

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Hmmm; my parents were sort of spiritual but agnostic, my father was a member of the Spiritualist Church when he was a child and teen in England, but he broke from them after becoming an adult. My mother was raised in the United Church (I think it’s like the Episcopalian Church in the U.S.), but was not attending church by the time she got married. They were very casual about churches and religion, but did insist that my sister and I attend church (United Church) for at least a couple of years so that we’d know what it was about and would have the information we needed to make up our own minds. As a similarly semi-spiritual agnostic leaning more to atheism as I get older, my attitude is “you do you”. So my casual attitude and lack of evangelism may have been absorbed from my parents.

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