Speaking of Faith: discussions on religion (broadly defined)

One of the front runners. Wikipedia was ready to go:

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One concern to keep in mind:

In 2000, Prevost allowed Father James Ray, an Augustinian priest, to reside at St. John Stone Friary in Chicago. Ray had been suspended from public ministry since 1991 due to credible accusations of sexual abuse of minors. Although the priory was close to a Catholic elementary school, Prevost did not notify the school administration about Ray. The Augustinians noted that Ray was assigned a monitor while at St. John Stone. Ray was moved to a different residence in 2002 when the US Conference of Catholic Bishops adopted stricter rules for handling priests accused of abusing minors.

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Hard to find a senior Catholic clergyman with no connections to child sexual abuse

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Lots of news about Pope Leo XIV being the first American Pope, but not a lot about him being the first Peruvian Pope as well.

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As far as accusations go the example quoted above is less egregious than many. They’re saying that the accused abuser was allowed to live in proximity to a school, but he was also suspended from public ministry and had someone assigned to monitor his behavior at the time. (Didn’t mention anything about the cardinal actively covering up past abuse or whether law enforcement was ever notified so who knows) So the most typical abuse scenario where the abuser grooms a victim that he regularly interacts with probably couldn’t have easily taken place during that time period, and so far I’m not seeing any accusations that abuse actually occurred when the guy was living there. So bad judgement but not necessarily something that actually led to harm, hopefully?

There definitely may be more damning stuff out there that I haven’t seen yet though.

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Yet another South America connection!

Also, he is an Augstine Monk, and that’s a first too…

So much of the church has been implicated in it. Francis had some movement on addressing it, but not nearly enough. :rage:

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Potentially interesting that he’s chosen the name Leo, given the actions of the last pope of that name.

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All hail Hippie Pope II!

Okay but this seems more serious, though I’d suspect every powerful priest of his generation is guilty of this: "We can be a missionary church, a church that builds bridges, that is always open to receive everyone — just like in this square, to welcome everyone, in charity, dialogue and love,ā€ he told the huge crowd assembled before him. He also issued a greeting in Spanish and a shout-out to his former diocese in Chiclayo, Peru.

In picking the 69-year-old Prevost, the papal conclave looked past allegations that he had mishandled or failed to act on sexual abuse cases involving priests in both Peru and the United States.

He was selected despite being ā€œan enigma to cardinals, especially to American cardinals, because he spent his life outside of the United States,ā€ said Jon Morris, a theologian and former priest who has been in Rome to observe the transition as a Fox News contributor.

Prevost, who is fluent in English, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and French, was twice elected top leader of the centuries-old Order of St. Augustine. Its website describes the international order as ā€œliving together in harmony, being of one mind and one heart on the way to God,ā€ calling nothing your own and living communally.

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American conservative Catholics are gonna be bigly mad. he seems woke.

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WGAF?

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Under views it already has the usual derision of ā€œgender ideologyā€ and ā€œthe homosexual lifestyleā€. I hope he’ll be above average but that doesn’t sound anything like real woke to me.

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For a pope, maybe, but he’s not that woke.

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Of course, I was joking about him being woke… but yeah, another ding against him.

I agree…

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I mean, I’m glad they didn’t pick one of the arch conservatives whose names I heard thrown around as possibilities, but I wouldn’t expect to start seeing polyamorous genderqueer priests anytime soon.

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That’s a good band name

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Gabber? Folk-punk? Alt-Country?

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Appearing at the Point with Sunny War! All ages!

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