Yes. But Kukel (not Kutsel, my bad) seems to make sense.
If you wanted to oppose the German invasion? Better to scuttle the ships than surrender them.
If you wanted to support the sovyets? As Kukel did. Better to scuttle the ships.
If you wanted to support the former Central Rada? Better to scuttle the ships.
If you wanted to signal to the Entente, to improve your post-war negotiating position? Better to scuttle the ships.
If you have 20-20 hindsight and want to keep the future Armed Forces of South Russia from gaining control of the ships? Better to scuttle the ships.
Can you imagine if French sources, including their Wikipedia, continued to go out of their way to portray the Free French as ācowardsā and ātraitorsā? Thatās my impression of certain Ukrainian sources, including their Wikipedia.
Oh, I agree. I just hate the tragic waste of war, especially the sinking of ships. In the next war Krushchev had the same problem, having to destroy factories that had taken years to build to prevent them falling into German hands. In the days of wooden ships, of course, it was hard to sink them and the wastage was much less.
Yes, Nikita Sergeyevich Krushchev. The Wikipedia article in English is rather inadequate, and the Russian one is not vastly better probably because they still donāt like to discuss 1941 very much. Krushchev had the job of rescuing or destroying as much material as possible in front of the Germany armies. @MarjaE chastised me for being an ignorant American on the subject of the 1919 war, though I plead guilty to only half of that. I have noticed that many Westerners know little of what happened in 1941. Worth reading Alan Clarkās book Barbarossa .
He was a Commissar with the rank of General in Ukraine during the first part of the war, and was at Stalingrad. His ill advised transfer of Crimea to Ukraine after the war has led to the present trouble.
I was going to post this in the lounge, then I discovered Iāve been demoted from regular for some reason*, so perhaps the best place is here given the subject.
Iāve left the other place. The reason is not the increased noise level but that it has been affecting me, and it has been affecting the tone of my posts. US sites seem to be increasingly polarised on both sides**, and it isnāt contributing to reasoned debate. People seem increasingly intolerant of different opinions or perspective, and more prone to kneejerk response. Iāve realised itās bad for my own balance, as it is infectious, and it is time to stop. Popo finally got banned and then I thought of the other people whose posts have become increasingly aggressive, and realised it was happening to me too.
Present company excepted and I really hope it continues to be so.
**Russian sites are absolute garbage except for the carefully curated vkontaktye, so it isnāt like itās a unique phenomenon. But itās affecting The Register, where technical comments suddenly turn into anti-Trump or anti-Obama/Clinton rants. Try discussing net neutrality. Or rather, donāt.
People here donāt grind my gears. But thatās because discussion of US and world politics tends not to arise from clickbaity articles and doesnāt create responses that cause me to forget that itās just electrons and photons.
I hope I recognise my own flaws, at least to a degree, but increasingly if you are of fairly mainstream European mildly left wing views, some US sites are like a roomful of drunken alcoholics to a recovering alcoholic. BB is not nearly that bad yet, but I reached my own personal tipping point.
Edit - I went back briefly because I forgot to log out, and I think the last reply I received (forgot who) said something like "Was it because of the harsh response from Rob?"
I didnāt even know Beschizza had responded to one of my posts, but no, I can tell you the precise moment I gave up. It was seeing a post on the British rapist thread from 44 suggesting castration for rapists.
I started to consider a reply explaining why this doesnāt work, how rape is about power over others not primarily sex, and then I thought, why? Iām not going to change the mind of 44. Iāll probably get some replies suggesting Iām trivialising rape. What am I doing here? Why I am I doing it? And I didnāt like the answers I got.
I havenāt missed it. I thought I would miss it more. At first I did but now I have no desire to be there. It got to where it felt so chaotic and unsafe to me.
I left sometime ago as the tone had just changed. I had myself anonymized to keep from slipping back in to post. I also unfollowed Doctorow and BB on Twitter (I still follow Beschizza and Xeni - but they tweet a few orders of magnitude less than Cory) so now I rarely even go there for articles.
Even in a small company, if management is by project or duty instead of person, and you can be assigned to multiple projects with side duties, you can easily end up with multiple managersā¦which adds managing your managers to your list of duties.
Would it be impractical to design buildings to channel that water into each floorās shower, which is designed for that sort of thing, instead of spreading that water between the vents, fire alarms, unpredictable weak spots, etc.?
And of course, one is not willing to even try to understand a social problem, one is rendering themselves less able to fix it. Certainly not by browbeating people online.
