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Pat Benatar!
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Those were great videos. I liked how the first one was making the point of “why are we grading on a curve here?”
I haven’t heard a lot of El-P as I don’t listen to a lot of modern rap outside of Kendrick Lamar, JPEGMAFIA, Tyler, the Creator, and a few others. I’ll definitely have to check out some RTJ though.
The Beastie Boys… I… don’t know who else… Not as deep into hip-hop as others…
3rd Bass comes to mind. They seem to be largely forgotten and only released a couple albums, but they were incredibly good.
They also introduced the world to Zev Love X – who would eventually become better known as the late MF Doom in this banger:
The Gas Face and another song called The Cactus both contained disses against MC Hammer. Hammer allegedly was so angered by this that he put out a hit on MC Serch. (Hammer may have been a corny AF rapper, but behind all that he was allegedly affiliated with the NHCs and known to be someone you don’t fuck around with.)
I couldn’t agree with you more on the importance of The Beastie Boys. They may have started out as a punk band who did a rap song as a joke, but they parlayed that into some seriously important hip-hop.
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There’s an interesting connection to later hip-hop (and white people) in that video.
Don Novello is in that Rodney Dangerfield video as his Father Guido Sarducci character. In the late 1990s/early 2000s, Dan the Automator and Prince Paul collaborated under the name “Handsome Boy Modeling School”. Father Guido Sarducci was a featured guest on several tracks across their two albums.
(Even weirder is the Handsome Boy Modeling School collaboration and their subsequent debut album was based on an episode of Chris Elliott’s short-lived and highly underrated “Get a Life” sitcom.)
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Handsome Boy Modeling School was a recurring skit on Bob and Ray’s Radio show which ran from 1946 until the 1980s. Bob was Bob Elliot, Chris Elliot’s father.
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Bob was Bob Elliot, Chris Elliot’s father.
Who also played Chris’ father on Get a Life.
I didn’t realize that the Handsome Boy Modeling School idea went back even further than Get a Life. TIL.
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This one of most bittersweet songs IMHO.
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I thought I knew a lot about obscure music genres, but this one was new to me.
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Watching/listening now… I have heard the term “library music” but don’t know much about the history… I don’t know if I’d call it a genre, though?
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I could swear I shared this video here some time ago, but I don’t know how to search for it. It could have been at the other place…
Like Mindy I wouldn’t refer to library music as a genre, that stuff is in many different genres.
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I heard a radio documentary not long ago about how library music was an outlet for women composers (it included, but was not limited to, Delia Derbyshire).
While I was at college the film school had a large library of library music (and, separately, sound effects), there are certain characteristics that could make it a genre, some mentioned in your link, like length, loopability, instruments and a large slab of cheese. I sometimes worked in a studio next to an editing suite and could hear the searches for that right piece.
As a genre it has definite categories – ethnicity, emotion or environment for example, the library was organised but I cannot recall the categories they used.
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I like some of Eminem’s stuff. He’s absolutely talented. He also hates Trump, so that elevates him in my book. El-P absolutely belongs on a Mt Rushmore of white rappers. I don’t know about including the Beastie Boys there. They were great, and they really were among the first white people in hop hop, but their origins are also undeniably in punk. So I could see why some might not include them.
At least no one tried to put Rob Van Winkle there.
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