The Nazification of America

Yeah. I think the far bigger issue is people don’t read it at all, like those earnest students at a Christian university I once saw in a video who were totally convinced it said the founding fathers wanted the new Republic to be a Christian nation.

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Hey, we need to compromise!

(evil + virtue)/2

:roll_eyes:

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Damn, it’s hard to believe things have slid back this far.

At least now I’ve got something easy to point to when someone’s talking about how both sides are equally horrible…

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No, no, no.

We’re at least on iteration 4 of the compromise function, where C1 =(evil+ virtue)/2, and Cn= (evil+Cn-1)/2.

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They see themselves as anti-government and anti-authority, because they see the current form of government as illegitimate, because in recent years it has empowered people who aren’t white men.

I know it’s a contradiction, but I don’t think these are people who have a firm grasp of reality and on who is actually suffering from oppression in the modern world. These are people who really embrace the idea of white, male, straight superiority, and that anything that empowers the rest of us is illegitimate. It’s not about what is, but about what they think is the case.

They want a government that represents only them and their desires, and will happily support acts of violence against the rest of us to get that done, because they really don’t see the rest of us as worthy of full human rights. They’re anti-government as long as the rest of us are getting government support.

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FTFY.

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Well, I’ll agree that they’re anti-authority. Because they don’t respect:

  • Other people’s personal autonomy.

  • The authority of the bootmaker when it comes to making boots, or of the climate scientist who’s spent years or decades studying this when it comes to understanding climate.

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Don’t get me wrong, I think you’re entirely correct that they are really pro-government, but it’s only for certain kinds of government and that really isn’t how they see themselves. They want a government that will enforce their world view and only their world view. This was why many white supremacist saw Obama’s presidency as such a boon, because they knew it would inflame that latent racism in some, who were outraged that arguable the most powerful man on earth was a black man.

And @nimelennar, of course add rich to that, but I think that the movements were talking about includes a fair number of working class/middle class people.

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A.k.a “temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

They’re okay with the rich taking from the poor, I think, because they honestly believe that with enough hard work and obedience to their preachers, they’ll get wealthy themselves, despite all evidence to the contrary. That the wealthy have earned their wealth, and as soon as they do enough earning, they’ll be at the top of the heap.

So the government had better butt out, because it’s taxation that is preventing them from rising any higher, and because once they get up there, they don’t want to be laid low again.

It’s the Prosperity Gospel, or what bibliophile from the other place used to call “the Church of Mammon.” If you’re wealthier, it’s because you’re more virtuous and harder-working, so earn all the cash that God will let you, and, quite literally, Devil take the hindmost.

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OMG. OMFG.

Just when you think they can’t go lower…

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And orange flesh at that. Bleah.

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So there was another right-wing attack on Friday, killing 2 people and wounding 5 at a Florida Yoga studio.

As for the cult of personality–

I used to be a Christian, and I think Iesus was probably a good person, but I just don’t have enough evidence that he was definitely a perfectly good person. I know cults of personality do great harm, and I don’t have enough evidence to say, “this time the cult of personality is okay,” and I don’t think G’d would want anyone to support a cult of personality without enough evidence.

So I left.

I guess these people had the equal and opposite reaction.

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All I heard was that it happened and I immediately thought some Incel must have lost his tiny grasp and flipped out

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Yup.

I recently unfollowed someone on Twitter who states in their biography blurb that they are active in humanitarian causes, and also an entrepreneur. And from their feed thus far, that seemed about right.

Oh yeah, and they say they’re British and living in the UK. That’s important for the next paragraph.

And then they posted about how Trump had created all these jobs, how unemployment is so low, how Trump is so hard-working and is volunteering his time, blah blah blah.

I considered posting about the number of days Trump has spent golfing, the “executive hours” on his schedule, the quality and pay rates of those jobs, the fact that the GOP created the 2008 recession through deregulation… but anyone with cognitive dissonance that bad isn’t going to be convinced by a stranger on Twitter.

So yeah, there’s a lot of people who are still not looking around, still not getting that this is not conservatives as usual, still in denial about the awful shit that’s happening.

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The stuff of circus peanuts. LOL

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St. Louis is where they have multiple billboards saying JESUS on I-44 on the way out of town.

Of course, this is pretty tame by midwestern standards. The ones in Indiana threaten hellfire for nonbelievers.

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The Christian Right has hated yoga since forever, even going as far as to say it was a way for the devil to crawl up someone’s ass.

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