Iâm not quite sure what you mean, because it sounds to me more like your example is one of outrage descending on the accuser. But at the risk of talking past each other, let me try to be more clear what I meant. Iâm not questioning whether such things ever happen, but whether you can actually draw a line from them to saying this is why Nazis happen.
Iâm sure right-wingers were happy to point to you as proof, but did they actually care about it? Because many donât seem bothered by its absence; they can just as soon point to the flood of criminal immigrants, the discrimination against white men, the war on Christianity, the big conspiracy behind climate science, the epidemic of welfare abuse, etc. I donât think they are credible sources on what theyâre actually upset about, since it doesnât seem to matter whether it is real. As Iâve said before, itâs fretting about giving fuel to liars who are just as happy to burn whole cloth.
And even when they do point to something real, it isnât always what matters to them. Trump did not actually get elected because people genuinely care about public officials using private e-mail servers, something none cared about before or since. So obviously itâs a bad thing in itself when someone is incorrectly condemned for racism and sexism. But is that genuinely radicalizing people, instead of for instance just something nice to point to if youâre unhappy that racism and sexism get condemned?
What I can say for sure is that none of these articles seem to do the work to be sure, and I think that deserves to be treated as dubious because it fits into a long pattern. People keep pretending that bigotry itself canât possibly be an important motivation, decent people must just be reacting to something else. And so the real fault must be anyone who isnât opposing them exactly the right way, and you get the circular firing squad over what on earth that is, while theyâre out hurting people.
If this one articleâs summary is accurate, what happened to Dominique Moran is awful, and I will say again we should try to avoid that sort of thing for its own sake. But I also think itâs important not to make excuses for bigots, because trying to win them over with restrained opposition is not historically sound strategy.
Following on @Lucy_Gothro1âs earlier post.
Every time an essay like this appears, Twitter jumps up and basically character assassinates the author. They canât see their privilege, theyâre out of touch, theyâre white, and so on.
I do wonder how many people will be excommunicated before people realise theyâre being exclusive, not inclusive, unsafe, not creating safe spaces.
OTOH, that is in Quillette. âIntellectual Dark Webâ darlings⌠I take anything they publish with a grain of salt. Possibly an entire shakerful.
As in he really did do something awful and this is a chance for him to paint over it?
Certainly possible.
On the other hand, these stories keep happening. I remember when I was in university, a prof of mine attended a feminist conference. She said during a Q&A, a woman mentioned she was a lesbian as context for a question.
Thereafter people started giving their orientation before asking a question. Fair enough, that sort of pattern happens in conference Q&As all the time.
Except anyone who announced they were straight was booed.
Hating on anyone for how theyâre born is not cool, and the left keeps going, âbut after a lifetime of micro and macro aggression/unrealised privilege/history of colonialism etcâ and sweeps it under the rug, unexamined.
But it still doesnât justify hating on anyone for how theyâre born.
Nothing actually does, except in the minds of those whoâre doing the hating.
If I could go back in time, it wouldnât be to kill Hitler or stop the Titanic from hitting an iceberg or kill John Wilkes Booth prior to his visit to the Ford Theater. No, I want to find out who STARTED THIS SHIT. I also want the ability - fuck, if I can go back in time, Iâll take all I can get, lol - to get into peopleâs minds. Because I have no doubt this is prehistoric shit.
What if someone with a superiority kink has already done that, for the worseâŚ
To what or which âthatâ are you referring? I just want information without actually interfering with the natural order, unless my actually being a figurative fly on the wall mucks things up. But we donât actually know about that yet, do we? AnyhowâŚ
Oh, do you mean like the ST:TOS episode, âThe City on the Edge of Foreverâ?
Okay, 'nuff of that, letâs not derail the thread.
I may have misunderstood âget into peopleâs mindsâ.
I imagined you acting as a sort of auxiliary conscience⌠and someone else acting as a sort of dark auxiliary conscience teaching âhonor, purity, domination, kill, kill, kill!â
AnywayâŚ
Nope, just wanna know what and why theyâre thinkinâ what theyâd be thinking, or feeling, or somehow processing, in their brains. Strictly for my own personal curiosity.
Literal concentration camps without even the fig leaf
He is sooooo heterosexual.
That helmet . . . with the hole at the end . . . I think itâs a statement.
You should see him in his latex⌠Straight as Duterte.
I hope this news helps lead to de-Nazification:
P.S. Other reports suggest a false alarm.