🇺🇦 The War in Ukraine

Excellent. Though they may have to kick us out of NATO eventually.

Ukraine needs this support now!

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A western alliance is having to form against a new, twin & united threat: Trump & Putin.

Yep. Hogsbreath made that clear today. And then some.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hegseth-says-ukraine-cannot-expect-return-to-old-borders-nato-membership/ar-AA1yVjPK

His remarks on Ukraine were a stark change from the stance of the Biden administration and many of Ukraine’s closest allies, who had declared they would support Kyiv for as long as necessary and stressed the importance of territorial integrity.

His comments also suggested that Kyiv would have to abandon some of its key war aims - regaining territory from Russia and securing protection from future attacks through membership of the U.S.-led NATO military alliance.

While Trump administration officials had signalled for some time that they would not support those goals, Hegseth’s on-camera remarks made that stance clear to the global public.

He also said “the United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement”.

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So it’s not just :us: trade agreements that aren’t worth the ink in a magic marker these days… :thinking:

I’ll leave it to the diplomats to keep this betrayal of NATO, the UN, international law’s most fundamental and basic tenets, to a smoking pile of rubbish while the rest of us figure out a Plan B for this pending dumpster fire.

If :ukraine: doesn’t have nukes by end of 2026 I’ll be astounded.

It will be interesting to see how Putin gets to the :us: without getting intercepted.

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Abandoning “allies” and breaking treaties are most American things I know.

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^The US singing my favorite things…

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As many people have pointed out, even if exclusion from NATO and loss of some territory did end up being part of a final negotiated peace deal with Russia, it’s absolutely a terrible negotiating tactic to announce that publicly before official negotiations have even begun, thereby preemptively giving away all the bargaining chips. Not to mention that it’s not America’s decision to make. That’s up to the people of Ukraine.

But we all know that Trump’s team has been on Putin’s side for quite some time, so not really surprising.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says Kyiv will not accept any peace deal agreed by Russia and the US without its involvement.

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So much winning!

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However, it should be noted that when he pointed to Ukraine on the map, he was actually pointing to Utah… /s

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Between this and Brexit, de Gaulle is sounding pretty prescient right now.

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This is shaping up to be a lot like Munich 1938.

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Europe fears what Trump’s peace might look like

World fears what Trump’s peaces might look like

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Was just coming to post that… Jesus fucking Christ, these fuckers.

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“It’s certainly an innovative approach to a negotiation to make very major concessions even before they have started,” said former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt

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The Art ot The Deal, revised edition 2025

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The Trump response

“Generally speaking, yeah, generally speaking I was,” said the president. “I’ll speak to Pete, I’ll find out,” he added.

Is more disturbing.

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