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That’s a darn good point.

Did you get a lot of twitching when first on an SSRI? I did and it was really irritating. I guess that’s one of the milder symptoms of serotonin syndrome but fortunately I never had any of the others.

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Not really? But I was actively suicidal when I first began. My perceptions of that time are really messed up!

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Hope you’re doing much better. Paroxetine really helped me.

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I am doing immensely better, thank you! TMS treatment was a game changer for me. I’d always been resistant to the various medications I tried. I do the TMS treatments and one med now. I’m working to incorporate more yoga, because that helps a lot when I do it consistently. I’m glad you have something that works for you too. It’s really awful that it takes so much work to find what works. And some people never do

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I think I have found the fault in your logic. Consistency is the enemy here, they need to find ways to punish their enemies while not causing inconvenience to themselves. Weed is largely not a choice of C-suite types, while booze most certainly is. See differential between crack and powder cocaine for reference.

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My dad was an alcoholic and only an occasional pot smoker. I so much preferred him when he was stoned over when he was drunk. I can’t recall him ever once shooting holes in the walls of house (from the inside) when he was stoned, nor did I have to ever try to get him out from under the front porch when he was having a Vietnam flash back then. He would drive a semi-truck loaded with logs while drunk, but to my knowledge, he never did so while stoned.)

Yeah, I like Elton John, but he can piss right off on that one.

(I’m glad to say he did finally get into AA and get the help he needed; being 15 years sober when he died. Before that, however, his alcoholism drove away everyone in his family except his mother, almost cost him his business, his life, and potentially the lives of others.

I know it’s possible to make a chain of correlations between the usage of various drugs, but I’m not convinced there’s an actual causation. (Honest question: does anyone know if there’s credible evidence of this?) It seems if someone is trying to establish that connection, nicotine and my beloved caffeine should be on that list far ahead of cannabis.

(Edit for clarity.)

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There isn’t. The logic was always that if you were doing illegal substances, then you were dealing with people who sold illegal substances, and who knows what they sold besides weed? But that’s more of a Just So story than actual fact. I’ve had a few who progress from weed to harder drugs, but a lot more who started with alcohol. It was just another BS story to justify the “War on Drugs,” and about as factual as Reefer Madness.

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The real gateway drug is the friends we made along the way.

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I’m not of the belief that there is causation, but if there was, the idea that if they try cannabis, for example, they might have found that all the fearmongering around it to be BS. Then having found out they had been lied to, they went on to try things which do cause addiction. That seems like it might be a valid “gateway”

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My nesting partner and I were discussing this yesterday. I’ve never been much of an alcohol drinker. I haven’t had alcohol in over 20 years and I’ve been at the “drunk” level once, although I did have a few times of being tipsy. It just didn’t do much for me.

I tried an edible for the first time about two years ago and at this point, I’ll have one probably most evenings when I’m not working the next day … as long as I’m at home or at a specific partner’s home, and I’m not a depressed or otherwise negative mood, and I don’t have to be up early the next day … and, and, and.

I get a little giggly, a little spacey, and very relaxed. I’ll sit in my office chair watching videos that I collect specifically for the purpose, and will almost always be joined by one of the cats who’s very happy to take advantage of the situation and get petted for upwards of an hour at a time. My NP reads her fanfic or plays her games, then when she’s ready for bed I happily follow her upstairs and sleep really well. Like I said, I never drank that much, but I don’t remember ever having anything like that good of an experience with alcohol.

I’ve known people that couldn’t go a weekend without alcohol, but more likely would have some every night. We’re going to see family for a week (so two weekends) and it wouldn’t even cross my mind to try to bring anything with me, nor do I feel the least bit concerned about “missing” it. If this is the path to doom and destruction from “the Devil’s weed” it’s not exactly the fast lane!

Yeah, now that I can kind of buy. Odd how once you find out you’ve been lied to about one thing in a big way like that, you start thinking maybe the whole thing was a pack of lies. (One partner says the DARE program was much more of a gateway to drugs for the students in their school than any other activity. They’d all get high and make funny anti-drug signs!)

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I do not. I was just saying that if there were a gateway drug, it would be alcohol, not weed. For me, alcohol was my drug of choice. I tried pot once, had a bad experience, and never had a desire to try it again. Alcohol, though, I was addicted to almost from day 1. After 14 years sober, I found myself addicted to percocet, which caught me by surprise. Luckily, not a lot of damage was done and I got clean from that relatively quickly.

I’m very glad your dad got sober eventually.

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I’ve tried THC edibles for sleep recently and agree. A problem for me though is the next day, even with half a dose. I sleep well (for once) for 8 or 9 hours, but wake up kinda groggy, and often with a weird, though fairly mild headache. Both can last all day. Ugh, maybe it’s just not right for me. Or maybe it’s just from such a long sleep! :person_shrugging:

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I have a fairly high tolerance and even I feel the effects of a 10mg edible for roughly 24 hours give or take.

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You might look into something like this CBN alternative at your local dispensary. IME, it has the same sleep benefits of THC, but without the next morning grogginess.

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Oh interesting, hadn’t heard of it. Thank you!

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10mg Indica (for most edibles) seems to be my ideal dose. At 5mg it doesn’t seem to do much, at 15mg I get way more out of it than intended. (As in I got lost in my kitchen!)

Body weight seems to be a large factor as I haven’t really built up much tolerance in two years, but I do have a lot more mass than I should.

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I have a tendency to get very tired with anything over 15mg.

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Bluesky saying “fuck you” to it’s trans users in defense of not banning Jesse Singal.

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SF tech startup Scale AI, worth $13.8B, accused of widespread wage theft

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/sf-tech-startup-scale-ai-sued-wage-theft-19976761.php

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