I also wonder why more noise isn’t being made about it, which I should’ve included in my original post. Oh wel-lol.
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Th conversation is being directed by the haters. Who really hate trans women and think that sells their hate more effectively. It’s harder for them to portray trans guys as being predators or having “innate advantages” because of trans misogyny.
The right attacks trans guy’s existence by saying they’re deluded women who’ve been forced by the medical establishment to transition and to erase lesbians.
The attacks aren’t always symmetrical.
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And “erasing lesbians” just does not seem as effective at stirring fear and hate. So for the most part they deny that trans guys exist at all, just “confused tomboys.” Of couse, it does not have to make any logical sense at all, as long as it sparks hate.
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And straight cis-men historically enjoy lesbian porn. Shit, human beings are so messed up.
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The issue is that they are taking the TERF talking points at face value. It’s not misandry, it’s transmisogyny. If it was misandry, the GC crowd wouldn’t be cozying up to the religious right that is intent on taking away women’s rights generally. This is what we were trying to point out.
The bigger issue is that instead of taking this criticism and reflecting on what trans women were telling them, mostly calmly and with intent to educate, they doubled down, whined about being attacked, deleted their account, then started whinging about how awful the angry trannies over at Bluesky are on Twitter. They had every opportunity to go ‘oh sorry’ and change one paragraph of their release and instead dug in and doubled down repeatedly.
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I really wish our ‘allies’ would at least run the things they write about us by a few trans people. This all could have been easily avoided before it even began. But in typical cis-ally fashion, they chose to speak for us and react badly when they were called out for getting it wrong. I’m honestly losing faith in cis peoples’ ability to advocate for us at all at this point.
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That’s it, right there. That’s the distinction. Had they reacted differently, it would be possible to believe that it was a well-meaning statement that was bungled at first.
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Yes, but.
If any cis group is likely to have your back, however poorly they state their position, one that focuses on genocides is probably the most likely.
At some point, perfect is the enemy of good enough. We have to support each other first, no matter how imperfectly.
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Though it would be nice if more places gave trans people a voice. Nearly every news story or opinion piece I see is others talking about us.
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Except they got mild push back on their poorly stated inaccurate position, deleted their account and went to twitter to talk about how mean trans people are. If that’s having my back, I don’t need it
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As somebody much further back in line who has watched these things for decades, I would argue that this is a stage, an indication of growth, and therefore a positive sign in the long run. Each time any discriminated-against group starts getting some traction, there are growth pains, but as MLK said, the arc is long but tends toward justice. Things are getting better. They really are. As horrible as it is currently, this is an extinction burst we’re seeing:
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I’ve been hearing we’re a new thing all my long life.
Wasn’t true then, isn’t true now.
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The push for a formal confirmation of human and civil rights for trans people (in the U.S., at least) is new.
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The first law passed in the U.S. that was a formal recognition of trans people was 70 years ago. Older than the first on sexual orientation. Older than the civil rights act of 1964. Older than probably everyone working at the Lemkin Institute.
They screwed up. Then they screwed up their response to screwing up. The only thing it’s a sign of is they’re screwing up and that transphobia is deeply rooted.
It’s not a sign of progress that even they screw up when it comes to us.
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From the transcript
This term is why I love science so much. You can take an idea from one field, like psychology for example, and apply it to another field, like political science, and the principles still apply.
This is how Engineer’s Disease comes about. I tuned out after that point.
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This all happened before, in the Autism Speaks debacle
“The very thought that autistic people can tell us, the authorities on autism, what it’s like to be autistic!” It was narcissistic then, and this is self-important narcissism now.
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And these are the good guys. Oh my fucking god, what is happening!!
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