Um.... what.... aka, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read

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He [G.E. Moore] believed global skepticism is more or less incoherent because in face we can distinguish easily between dreams and reality, optical illusions and reality, etc.

But we can’t easily do that. I know I have trouble. I always thought that was part of the human condition. Was he just bullshitting?

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What were they exploring? Testing the limits of their bank accounts?

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It’s a modern day Icarus story.

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Rather expensive burial at sea though.

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And no flag.

Did they have offspring, or can they not be nominated for the next round of Darwin Awards?

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The Titanic claims five more victims.

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It’s good for business. Future expeditions to go sightseeing at the wreck location will be a two-for-one deal.

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When I heard the sub imploded rather than just sitting there with air running out, I was a bit relieved. If it happened to me I’d go insane.

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Unfortunately, the one guy’s 19 year old son was on board with him. If it were just a bunch of rich dudes, I’d been pretty comfortable with the choices they made. One story said the son was really scared but went because it was Father’s Day.

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Then the son’s a nominee.

Honestly, what kind of society do we live in that causes a 19 year old boy-man to do something extremely dangerous just because of a fuckin’ Hallmark holiday?

one where a son loves his dad and wants to let him know by doing something that he may not be 100% up for, but his dad’s excited for it, i guess.

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Does loving one’s parent have anything to do with self-preservation? And I also realize that a 19-y.o. brain isn’t developed to the point of making the best decisions either.

I just think it’s a shitty situation that could’ve been avoided, and glorifying it is even shittier. Nothing noble was done. There was no positive outcome whatsoever. And I doubt that any lesson was truly learned.

they didn’t know it was going to be the last thing they did. thoughts of self-preservation didn’t figure into it in the moment, any more that boarding an airplane makes you overwhelmingly fear for your own self-preservation. could it have been avoided? sure, in hindsight. the positive outcome is that this sort of tourism will be slowed or stopped for awhile, and there will definitely be more regulation and oversight coming, saving lives in the future.

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They knew there were risks, if nothing else.

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No, a Pakistani young man is raised to respect his father and want to impress him. This poor kid was in an impossible situation. No way he could say no. The fact that several family members knew how scared he was tells you all you need to know about how much he felt he didn’t have a choice.

He’s the one victim here. Poor kid.

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I’m trying very hard not to be dismissive of Pakistani culture, because that sort of behavior/thought process is found in many cultures. I’m more inclined to be dismissive and downright against the fact that it takes human lives and IMNSHO is counterintuitive. It also seems to prove that the patriarchy is just as damaging to men as it is to women (as if being damaging to women wasn’t enough).

It’s just sad and frustrating, the whole damn sitch, is my last word on it. :frowning:

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Holy moly! I eat a lot of aspartame! It’s basically two acids joined together! Gad. And when it is metabolized, it yields formaldehyde–you know, that stuff that’s used to preserve dead bodies! You can read more about the scary chemistry at Wikipedia. And it was approved during the Reagan administration! The process was tainted by corruption involving the notorious Donald Rumsfeld! And some published articles show that it is carcinogenic!

But a lot of articles show the opposite. And one could argue that the acids concerned are amino acids, which make up proteins. And formaldehyde is a product of normal metabolism of all sorts of food. And a lot of published studies show it doesn’t cause cancer, including literature reviews and meta-analyses. If it was a serious risk, you’d think after about 40 years, something would have been noticed.

Here’s a perhaps more balanced view:

At the bottom, the article notes that WHO has also declared cell phones a cancer risk. OMG!

Of course, the original sweetener, sugar, is somewhat of a risk. Such as obesity and diabetes, which themselves can lead to a few other minor conditions. Nothing to worry about.

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Whelp, back to saccharin.

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Eww, saccharin tastes terrible. How about cyclamate instead? Provided you’re not in the US. Or lead acetate, or ethylene glycol . . .

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