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Well that and Trump didn’t remove sanctions, so any value he did have was lost before he was even inaugurated. If the “sow chaos in the process” is the correct line of thought for their actions than Trump impeachment is the only value he has left.

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…which leads in to a point I don’t have time to write just now. Later.

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Anyway, the point.

As a matter of both ethics and practicality, liberal America cannot expect the working class and PoC to just stand there and tolerate fascist abuse for four years.

Regardless of whether or not serious resistance is tactically wise, it is going to happen. The American underclass are already stretched to breaking point, and they are going to snap.

If it’s done early enough, and with the support of the resources of the non-fascist middle class, then it may be successful and relatively peaceful. If it’s left too late, or seriously undermined by liberal betrayal, then it almost certainly won’t be.

If it doesn’t snap before the midterms, it will be much more difficult. The Trumpists will purge the last resistance from inside the GOP, the public service will be thoroughly Trumpified, and the remnants of the Democrats will be nothing but a useless Vichy rump.

Personally, I think that the situation is probably going to come to a crisis before the midterms. The Trumpists are delivering deliberate provocations every week. Liberals are paralysed, but the working class is just getting increasingly pissed off, and eventually it is going to blow.

Wikileaks looking to blame Obama for NK and provide justification for Trump. Seth Rogen’s having fun with it, but he’s being tagged as an antisemitic dog whistle for the fascists.

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Regardless of the merits of HRC as a person, it’s clear that she is nothing but a counterproductive wrecking ball in current US politics. It looks like Colbert came to that same conclusion.

Neatly done propaganda work, too. About the right mix of mockery and legitimate critique, just enough jokes at Bernie’s expense to soften it, and the big finish with an implied declaration of allegiance.

Colbert isn’t as effective as he’d like to be, but he still has some influence.

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First-world country.

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Interesting podcast on US military culture and demographics.

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Evil comes in many forms.

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Democratic debt ceiling deal: catastrophic collaborationist daftness as usual.

They just agreed to keep the police state and war machine running. The Democrats offer nothing of value to the American people.

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I greatly enjoy Matt Yglesias’ dry wit. :slight_smile:

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DACA seems to have made an impact; the BB threads are currently swamped in anti-nazi militancy, and I think they mean it this time.

This may be an end to sheetcake.

I think Arpaio was the true end

YMMV, but, IMO:

Arpaio made people scared and angry. DACA made them realise that Niemoller began reciting his poem quite some time ago.

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I don’t expect this to actually happen, but:

Imagine the impact if Bernie and Colbert aimed the interview at “the Democrats are a lost cause, but let me tell you about this group called the DSA…”.

It seems clear that the Democrats are (a) irretrievably crumbling, and (b) not worth saving.

If that’s the case, they need to be killed off good and hard and as fast as possible.

However, they could possibly survive as a junior coalition partner if they’re willing to just shut up about strategy and open the chequebooks. As Chapo puts it, “bend the knee”.

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