Wanderthread

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Some reports of sketchy brocialist bullshit in DSA-LA. How they and/or DSA-National respond will be important.

It’ll probably take a bit of time to shake out, though. Hopefully they’ll get on it ASAP.

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In late December 2016, Bernardi held controversial meetings with members of the United States presidential campaign of Donald Trump, allegedly in preparation of forming a breakaway party after continued dissatisfaction with the party and its policies.

It doesn’t irrate me, I pretty much expect any given twitter rant to be less than half right and this is no exception.

The finance chair doesn’t advocate policy, let alone one in a team of deputies.

Thought this was interesting and I basically didn’t know where to put it. I guess my thoughts are on how people fall into fascism, and how anyone can be caught up into the movements regardless of their own personal self-preservation or personal feelings.

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The last chance for peaceful compromise within the Dems:

Not expecting anything positive, but you never know.

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I mean, you won’t get a vague sense of compromise with that specific of a schedule for the conference. The TYT reporter (I always forget her name) is another example of the strange refusal to aknowledge the Obama rift in the Democrats, despite her elaborating on the details around the Obama rift. And since Perez is pretty squarely Obama’s guy, the meeting is designed to have those three sides working on some basics that have drawn heavy criticism.

The primary stuff should be easy - they should standardize the process for the Democrats and focus on getting the most people involved in voting possible, but it won’t happen because there isn’t a side that wants that. The superdelegates are much harder to compromise on, and the real point of contention with the Sanders side is they don’t want red states getting so much say in the primary. The final day is even harder, but the focus should be being as diverse a tent as can be supported and bringing people to the polls - they can use their money to counteract the barriers placed by the GOP lawmakers and encourage young and more radical candidates to get into the game. In the end there are enough people that care about federal elections only in this conference that Little is likely to be done as they discuss what could have been done better for the presidential race.

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Could you expand on “the Obama rift”? Do you mean a factional split between Obama and Clinton wings of the establishment Dems? If so, how would you assess the numbers of the factions and what are their policy differences?

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Predictably cranky comments.

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The video goes into it, Clinton was a huge supporter of the 50 state strategy while Obama ran and won on a top down strategy in 2008. Clinton let it go for her own personal gain, but the internal backlash against Obama is there. Obama wanted to privatize a lot of the DNC work, with poor results.

Policy wise not much is different, but the way the party is run is very different.

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http://www.dsa-la.org/statements_from_josh_androsky_and_the_dsa_la_steering_committee

Still a live issue, but promising signs.

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