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“and shattered the glass ceiling for women-led action flicks”

That would be Alien.

But Michelle Yeoh truly is superhuman.

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Do you mean the second in the series?

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I stick by my opinion.

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The first film is rather lacking in combat, pretty much the defining attribute of action films.

ETA: OK, an extended chase could qualify as well, but I wouldn’t say that’s in Alien either.

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Sigorney is awesome, but the honor really has to go to Cheng Pei-Pei for Come Drink With Me 1966

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I vote for Constance Towers in Naked Kiss (1964).

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Marvel just announced the cast for its upcoming Avengers movie and it seems nobody paid attention. Is it the end of the Super Hero movies trend?

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I did see a story where they talked about how Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart are going to be in the Doomsday movie… that’s pretty cool…

But yeah, I think we’re probably all over superhero films. Maybe time to mothball them for a couple of decades?

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I’ve definitely been exhausted on Marvel movies and TV shows

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We’ve not seen much of the Marvel TV shows, since they are all on Disney+ and they generally speaking haven’t put out much of it on physical media. I’ve heard good things about Wandavision and the Loki show, but honestly, I can’t be arsed.

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I’ve only seen Wandavision which i did highly enjoy, but have not seen Loki or the other ones. Because we don’t have Disney+ any more.

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I never could be arsed. They’ve always seemed dumb and childish to me. :person_shrugging:

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I enjoyed the first phase of the MCU… it was good storytelling, nicely paced, pulled enough from the comics to be satisfying, but with enough changes for the medium and times… I felt like they’d started to take the genre seriously enough to give it a big budget and enough freedom for the creators to be a bit experimental… But after a while, they just doubled down and tried to do the same thing over and over again.

But yeah, superhero comics aren’t for everyone. But Marvel, back in the day, worked pretty hard to introduce some great storytelling elements into the genre that hadn’t previously been there. Like any good writers for children, Marvel under Stan Lee started to take the minds of their readers (mostly children) seriously, and make the characters much more relatable and human. Superman and Batman weren’t that back in the day, but characters like Spiderman/Peter Parker certainly were. He was flawed and it was easier for young readers to connect with him and his struggles. He wasn’t born super, he ended up like that by an accident, and then struggled with what to do with that power. And he was from a working class background, to boot. I think when they started doing the MCU, more of that humanity shined through. They sort of stopped doing that in later phases.

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Not as long as they have Pedro Pascal.

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Loki was worth watching. Great cast.

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“You’ll believe a man can fly”

No I won’t. :stuck_out_tongue:

Perhaps I was the wrong age for the comic books, but superhero movies have never appealed to me. Like any other genre, some like them, some don’t.

That said, I have enjoyed some of the parodies of the genre such as Deadpool, even though I’m sure that a lot of the nuances are lost on me. I’m looking forward to the second season of Peacemaker, due this summer.

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Deadpool is nuanced like a sledgehammer. If he makes a reference to other comics or characters he’ll make it real obvious, even if you arent familiar with comics you’ll get the gist of what he’s making a joke about.

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That’s probably why I enjoyed it.

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I’ve seen clips of Legion, and it was mindbending; not all like an MCU vehicle.

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Dumb and childish I can be ok with, but the MCU films strike me as corporate and soulless. I’ve seen five now. The first four were pleasant enough time wasters, but Dr. Strange broke me. I just went into it in the hopes of a little psychedelic eye candy, but not only did I get an origin story which took up nearly the first hour, probably a handful of pages in the original comics, but also ugly, ugly CGI. I revisited clips from the cheap 1978 TV version and found them both more evocative and more physically attractive.

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