But both Dylan and Baez were acoustic, back in the day.
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I’m talking pre-electric folk, like Woody and Pete and all them whose names I can’t recall right now.
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I hit a paywall, so
I was hoping she’d dish some dirt on Dylan’s dirt, but alas.
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You were lucky to have parents who introduced you to that crowd. I could list several dozen and barely scratch the surface. It was a golden era of music in the U.S.
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I have a cousin this age and my parents were born a decade before. Its easy to see my parents in the light of American boomer culture but my cousin really doesn’t fit or make sense. She rebelled by listening to Billy idol and Madonna, not the Beatles or the rolling stones etc. When Woodstock happened she still had baby teeth.
I mean the whole thing is kind of arbitrary, but it never made sense to me to lump everyone together from 1945 to 1965 either. I think maybe people just didn’t expect culture would change a lot in every decade when they came up with the concept?
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It has to do with parenting/family styles. Growing up with the Great Depression and WWII always part of the backdrop in your family? Boomer. Growing up with the rebelliousness that underscored the Civil Rights Movement? Gen Jones or even X.
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Yeah, I’ve always thought that that is a better means of understanding generations, other than just the years… experience. Cause, as we often discuss here, generations aren’t a “real” thing, it’s shaped by things like shared cultural and historical experiences…
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If you have siblings that span out over 20 years; it’s all there. And if you’re family members weren’t all white.
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Obligs:
I’m Gen X, but a lot of the issues the younger folks experienced were things I’d already been through (going to college then being “overeducated” for entry level jobs, etc.) so I often find myself more in sympathy with them than with older folks… yet there are other things I only have in common with those my age and older (rotary phones, cursive, etc.)
So much is relative to the people involved, because not everyone in a particular age group had the same experiences or came to the same conclusions about them. Not to mention, viewpoints can change over time; I’m considerably further left of center now than I was a decade or two earlier, let alone when I was in my twenties as a “newly minted adult”…
It’s complicated.
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But this discussion isn’t about about dissension between generations. Meme does not apply.
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There was a sea change in the mid-1960s; pre 1965 it felt like the 1950s, but post 1966, there was a huge cultural shift, and you could feel it in the air. It was more than just the shift of the old decade gradually giving way to the new.
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4 ways women are physically stronger than men
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/05/31/women-strength-performance-endurance-recovery/
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Here in Oz, in the event of uncertainty the question “Did you grow up at a time and place where it was normal to have a computer in the house?” is used to categorise people as Gen X or Y. The cultural experience of having (or not) a computer being normal is considered a significant divider. “Significant” in the sense of “signifying something”, not in the sense of “very important”
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Likewise. Technically, i am the last of the boomers (11/64) but i feel nothing in common with the formative life experiences of that generation. The Gen X experience seems to hit much more accurately. Of course anything that claims to “define” a generation is going to come up short, but i absolutely agree with you.
Damn, @KathyPartdeux, i had never heard of Gen Jones, but that description nailed it pretty well for my growing up experience. I feel seen!
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In a way it was comforting for some one like me… bittersweet. When people say “why don’t people fight or try to redeem themselves by taking power back from abusers” it’s like “well, we see what the ones with the best damned chance of succeeding deal with.” It’s a clear answer to a stupid question. Some guilt or shame in not being willing to put myself out there and fight (even for myself) I guess is relieved by this realization.
The one that broke me was E. Jean. Carrol. Yes she won. Bitter victory. Really hit home the hopelessness and impossibility of it all.
There is not one woman in this world we think better of than the worst, objectively worst, man even on his worst day… not one woman in this world will ever be born who is worth that much to anyone no matter what she does. Like nothing you ever did would have mattered anyway.
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B&Q apologises after cabinet described as ‘easy to assemble, even if you’re a girl’
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Has Simone Gertz assembled one and turned it into a hypercar pickup truck, yet?
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