Apocalypse Watch

7 Likes

This one deer got one and almost two of us.

5 Likes

That deer didn’t look very stumbly to me.

More like this:

Or this:

In short, Bambi might be exaggerated a little.

3 Likes

9 Likes
7 Likes
6 Likes

I wish we’d never had such a “close” relationship with that country. But $$$$$ I guess.

6 Likes

$$$ and :oil_drum:

6 Likes

The continued use of fossil fuel is a large part of our ongoing apocalypse watch, both environmentally and politically/militarily.

7 Likes

Well, I figured SSS = :oil_drum: = $$$

6 Likes

Yikes. I can’t believe that’s a .gov domain with that kind of headline. Bureaucrats don’t do stuff like that. They must be pissed.

3 Likes

much of part 2 will be familiar.

5 Likes
6 Likes

just 7°F (4°C) of warming “would constitute the end of civilization as we know it.” […]
climate impacts that come from just one more degree Celsius of warming — for a total of 3.6°F (2°C) warming — will be catastrophic. […]
if we warm the planet 2°C that may be enough to trigger feedbacks that push the planet toward the irreversible “Hothouse Earth.” That would mean catastrophic warming of 9°F (5°C)

Wasn’t it just last month that much of the northern U.S. and southern Canada saw temperatures range almost 100°F in a day or two from around -50°F to 50°F? And when it’s 20°F out, raising the temperature 3-9° certainly doesn’t sound catastrophic.

I feel like actually including the temperature deltas when talking about climate change is maybe a bad idea. Given that the numbers are so insignificant when compared to the high/low temperature range within a day, let alone seasonally, it’s counter-intuitive that such a small change would result in such massive and significant catastrophes. That feeds the climate change deniers. There must be a better way to communicate it? Maybe comparing sum global energy rather than energy at one point?

7 Likes

Sea level rise, climate zone shifts.

2 Likes

That’s the problem, isn’t it, trying to explain temporal and spatial averages to people who don’t even want to understand it even if they could.

5 Likes

I think we went through that but the anodyne phrase “climate change” doesn’t really cover the issues. Big ass-storms of all kinds, fun for all with porpoise-speaking clowns. Ckchxkctch! Have fun with yer hyperspace bypass and hypercanes. But then the panic obscures the issues and the offshore communities begin being bombed on a much smaller scale than the existential kind.

2 Likes

Except climate change deniers feed themselves. Seriously, I don’t think it makes sense tying yourself up to avoid giving fuel to liars that are proven just as happy to burn whole cloth. I’ve seen more than one person regret such efforts here – scientists so cautious of being dismissed as alarmist, they ended up downplaying the urgency, only to be slandered anyway.

Far better to explain the truth. In fact, I think it might help to make it clear the temperature changes involved are relatively small, and the real issue is that small changes have big results. Because by now many people have heard that CO2 is a trace gas, just a tiny portion of a big atmosphere, and so suppose our emissions can’t do that much. And in this sense, they won’t! It only absorbs a small portion of the infrared leaving our planet, and increasing it will only change temperature by a small percentage.

The thing is, for a planet at about 285 K, a one or two percentage change is the 3-6°C we’ve been worrying about. You can see it’s in no way so big as to be out of reach. At the same time, if you think it sounds too small to be concerning, it’s really not that hard to put the consequences in context.

4.5 degrees

The 14°C (3 IAU) quoted in this article sounds genuinely soul-crushing to me, the first time I’ve seen a number that really suggests maybe nobody is going to make it. There is some solace in the fact that it’s a worst-case scenario, but suffice to say the way we have been doing things, that is different from it not being a case. I don’t think I can genuinely consider it without tears.

But should anyone wonder if humanity is really capable of destroying its own home like that? Well, hey, it’s just a 5% increase. That’s the truth we need people to understand – our world is sensitive.

12 Likes
3 Likes

One former Italian Posadist is adamant that the ufology was never of major importance to them, and that appealing for nuclear war was of much greater concern.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Posadism

… it’s not too late!

I wish it were too late for that.

3 Likes