C'mon Guys (Toxic Masculinity)

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They’d run out of airtime so fast, it would quickly be replaced by a PSA for harassers. Something along the lines of, “We’re not gonna ask WTF is wrong with all of you…just cut it the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: out. If not, we’ll consider listing all the alleged offenders in the chyron during the daily broadcasts.”

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Massachussetts doctor was asking for it, going out in public like that. But actually.

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You’ll notice I put it in the Toxic Masculinity thread, not the Good News thread.

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Amazing new 4-part series on Netflix. Gripping, timely, important, fantastic acting and production, devastating story.

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My boys will always be respectful. They will always say, ‘Yes, sir, yes, ma’am.’

Around here, this sort of thing died out together with Prussian militarism in the middle of the last century, and I can’t see how anyone would want that for their children

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It’s still very much a thing in the Black community, as well as in the southern US. In some circles, how children address their elders and strangers is prioritized, because it reflects how they are seen (kids and their parents). It’s a measure of values and class, and in scenarios involving people in positions of authority, it can be a survival skill. :woman_shrugging:t5:

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Yes, and….

It’s always about authoritarianism. Who has the power, who must show deference. Blacks must show deference to whites, women to men, and even within an in-group, children must show deference to adults.

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Around here, it is still considered good, if formal, manners and praised. Not a bad thing at all. Sadly, I see it most often in my Black families, which I interpret as “how to deal with white folks” more than actual respect. But that’s just me.

@PsiPhiGrrrl:

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As someone who constantly gets misgendered after speaking, I’d really really really love that to die.

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You can’t even acknowledge rape around middle aged conservative women irl without some ass going “but most rapes are women raping schoolboys!”

Getting really pathetic out there with these information silos.

I suggest Florida near the beach for peak cyberschmuck longevity. You can prove climate change is a hoax while your are there too. Win win. If you can’t afford that I guess there’s corpus.

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What? They look like a couple of fun guys!

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They don’t to me, but I’d be willing to try spraying them down with clotrimazole just in case.

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Couldn’t agree more with this. I’m a white cis het woman, and I get misgendered occasionally and it always makes me cringe. So called “honorifics” that are gendered are simply problematic, at least in our current culture.
So much of the shit is hard to parse due to problematic language. The Mackie thing, for example. I don’t even know of that man, but it seems like what he was trying to say was that respect, accountability, and responsibility are dying, and that’s true. But to call that “masculinity” because, I don’t know, he mistakenly assumes those qualities are only asked of young men? Like, if he had daughters, wouldn’t he also encourage them to help out while he’s away, and make sure the doors are locked before going to bed? That’s just about stepping up and being a part of the household.

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I don’t know, but I looked up Mackie on Wikipedia, and it changes things a little, with regard to his statement about his 15 year old being in charge when he’s away. Mackie is divorced. I don’t know what the custody arrangements are, but maybe there are times when he has custody but has to leave his sons alone for awhile. Which would make sense, I guess. Because if and when they’re with their mother, Mackie wouldn’t have any say in who’s in charge. He doesn’t live there. Of course, he’s also said he’s not dating because he doesn’t know how to be vulnerable. He really does sound like a tool, the more I read about him. It makes me wonder about that rap battle in 8 mile, because there have always been stories that Eminem made up that rap on the spot about Mackie himself, not his character.

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Was discussing masculinity with my husband once. He asked me to think of any positive quality that is “masculine.” He then proceeded to explain how everything I could think of wasn’t masculine at all. It was just being responsible or kind or ethical or strong. That everything I could attribute to masculinity off the top of my head, were all attributes that applied equally (or occasionally even more so) to femininity. For example, being strong defending one’s family: who is the fiercest animal in the woods? The mama bear.

In other words, the idea of masculinity is a pile of shit

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Further evidence that the very idea of gender is a social construct.

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