Did Somebody Say "Star Trek"?

Oh, interesting!

We can all say that now, can’t we… My daughter was born AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CENTURY…

What a shitty century so far… :sob: I guess Star Trek got the tone of this era right, at least…

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Like @mindysan33 says religion didn’t come up a lot in earlier shows except in the context of “these primitive natives are worshipping an alien/machine/etc as their god!” but there were exceptions.

In the Original Series episode “Bread and Circuses,” the crew visits a planet that’s basically a 20th Century version of the Roman Empire and are rescued from a brutal gladatorial death by a group of cultists who preach brotherhood and identify as “Children of the Sun.”

Later, Uhura points out to a clueless Kirk and Spock that the cultists weren’t talking about the sun in the sky, but the Son of God. The Enterprise then leaves the system on a positive note in the knowledge that it’s only a matter of time before Christianity becomes the dominant religion on that planet, sweeping in a new age of peace and love. [Cough.]

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They’d be dead, because that was a few thousand years ago?

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Come on… You know what I meant… the people doing the actual work Christ encouraged in his day (and the actual radical political positions of the historical Jesus for that matter) is often dismissed by the most loud, vocal, and insistent Christians in our midst, while there are many Christians out there doing the things that their faith actual demands, without grandstanding about it - caring for others, welcoming the stranger, loving others as their brothers, turning the other cheek, fostering empathy, working to improve the world around us and foster actual justice in this world… the theology of people like MLK or all the liberation theology or social gospel types espouse advocated for transforming the world via doing that hard work to improve the material conditions of the world, rather than just sitting around and praying to god to make it so… or using whatever power they can get to oppress others, as that “utopia” is often built on the ashes of a dystopian rise to power which comes about via blood and pain of those seen as unfit… it dovetails with white supremacy, which has little to do with the teachings of a Palestinian Jew from 2000 years ago…

To bring it back to Roddenberry, he believed in lots of the same things a figure like King did… he just was a humanist who couldn’t see much past the right wing political side of modern Christianity, nor past the more mystical parts of Christianity… But at the end of the day, he wanted to get humanity to the same place King did - to a place where justice is common and humanity has found a way to work through our petty differences and see ourselves as part of a larger whole whose full liberation depended on each other, and did not come at the expense of others. Roddenberry was a man of his time, obsessed with sci-fi like many others of his political bent and social position in society, and wanted to make a strong statement about the path we could take that would improve all our lives. I find it much more productive to see it as sharing a path with others who embrace human freedom and liberation, rather than rejecting anyone who doesn’t see the world in quite the same way as I do…

To paraphrase Malcolm X, we should be willing to work with ANYONE, whatever their view of the cosmos, as long as they want to change this miserable condition that exists on this planet.

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Humor, @mindysan33!

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Enrico Caruso as as early Vulcan.

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Well ACtUshally!!! Leonard Nimoy took that gesture from his synagogue.

Was Enrico Caruso Jewish? Doesn’t seem like from his wikipedia, so probably he was playing a role that was Jewish?

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Apparently a publicity photo from La Juive, about the “impossible love between a Christian man and a Jewish woman.”

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Also irrelevant,

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I knew people here would get it. Not disappointed.

@ChuckV
You are correct, sir!

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Why not use the transport?

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That’s against Federation treaties with other civilizations.

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Let’s spare a moment for the poor sod who has to clean it up when the holodeck program is shut off. :nauseated_face:

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I’m sure the Enterprise is self-cleaning. Where do you suppose they get the matter for the food replicators?

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One would hope, it always bothered me what the clients get up to in Quark’s holosuites.

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