Yeah, that’s what I meant. I was aware that the Klingons had yet another reinterpretation of their poor foreheads, with hopefully some explanation (plastic surgery for TOS, perhaps?). I’m surprised they all don’t wear bangs.
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Enterprise had a show about that, which tied in nicely with Worf’s famous comment on DS9: “They are Klingon. We do not talk about it.”
Given the Enterprise episode, that Klingon foreheads were still (re)evolving in Discovery would make sense.
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Interesting. Dissertations have been written about the subject. Which I guess isn’t surprising.
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staring DeSDu’ QuchwIj ‘e’ mev!
The new Klingons look more alien than any previous except maybe the ones from Into Darkness.
They don’t even have hair.
I doubt it.
It’s not that kind of show. This is a war story. The enemy is being dehumanized.
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edited to add: this below isn’t quite right
-The empire was vast and had some brow ridge going on- ToS/Kirk era
-The empire had a DNA plague and disintegrated, fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down
-The empire reformed by finding a common enemy -new series-
-The empire had their ass handed to them, peace, etc and progressively treated the genetic disorder, and went back to merely being ugly and aggressive.
-The empire established relations with the Federation -Next Gen/ DS9 and Voyager (see Worf)
What I am really looking forward to in this new series are the Romulans. I think they’re going to be awesome, because canon says they sold arms to this new Klingon empire.
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The new series is chronologically between Enterprise and TOS.
According to continuity, these Klingons should look like John Colicos in “Errand of Mercy.” They don’t. On the contrary, they’re outside the envelope of all previous Klingons.
I don’t think CBS cares about being consistent with what we’ve seen before.
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ahh, my mistake. I thought we were post enterprise post plague. This is pre-kirk? This should be post kirk.
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that makes the opening line quite ironic!
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Hang on.
Given all the diversity of appearance in humans, surely Klingons can be likewise? Is it so strange ridged forehead and smooth forehead Klingons could exist at the same time? Especially when it is now canonical the smooth foreheads were from medical experimentation.
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I haven’t watched it yet but I believe these are super special Klingons.
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Hmm… That could put a dark spin on Worf’s “we don’t talk about it.” What happened to that faction?
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It might be something as benign as between the time of the original experiment and Worf’s comment the Klingons found a way to correct the process and prevent it from being passed on genetically. They don’t talk about it because the experiment was a huge failure and dishonourable because they deliberately adapted DNA from “weak” humans.
Or something more drastic may have happened, as you suggest – which would make for better TV drama.
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ive watched two episodes, and while the production etc is good, especially for network tv, im just tremendously disappointed.
how can star trek “discovery” be about war? war with deluded religious fanatics, who are dark skinned foreigners, with strange morals and strange ways.
they even managed to get a white savior in amongst the bad guys who’s so good at being bad, they couldn’t have won without his white cleverness.
there are some decent story beats and good characters, but really? this seems like some navel gazing, empire justifying schlock.
maybe we don’t deserve actual discovery and optimism any more. maybe we should only expect stories which mirror our own war-centric culture.
it’s just disappointing. here’s to hoping there’s a gigantic twist, and next year sometime i’ll watch the cancelled series on a rental disk.
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I have now! Thanks!
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I love me some nerd dissertations!
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My favorite character on DS9.
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Oh, geez. Just what we need. Those network idiots. Don’t they realize that there are other things to write science fiction about?
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In response to your spoiler text: We don’t deserve it. In that respect, Star Trek has been keeping up with our times quite well.
Personally I wanted to see a post Nemesis show where the Federation grew fat spoiled and aggressive in its decline thanks to the insurmountable power Future Janeway handed them. And it was up to the former enemies like the Klingons and Cardassians to take up the ideals that they left behind yet still believed that only they could do properly.
A true magnificent bastard.
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