Injustice Systems

Those puritans sure were obsessed with bestiality. To make that leap of reasoning, one would suspect a bit of projection was going on there.

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this tweet is interesting

specifically the “just war theory” part.

as it’s no longer “just war” once you decide that wars for the glory of god are by definition just…

While not abandoning the formal framework of just war theory, Puritan discussions on warfare move markedly in the direction of holy war justification. This trend is exemplified in the treatises of Thomas Sutton, Alexander Leighton, Thomas Barnes, and William Gouge among others.20 All of these writers agree in exalting the calling of soldiers as worthy vocation. Moreover, they argue that war derives not merely from the sinful condition of humanity (as it had for Ames), but also from the very nature of God"

It’s an old cite, but hey. Doesn’t make the puritans worth of a reread.

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I never did understand how “Prince of Peace” and “Onward Christian Soldiers” came from the same pot.

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Obligatory:

Onward, Christian soldiers! Duty’s way is plain;
Slay your Christian neighbors, or by them be slain,
Pulpiteers are spouting effervescent swill,
God above is calling you to rob and rape and kill,
All your acts are sanctified by the Lamb on high;
If you love the Holy Ghost, go murder, pray and die.

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Nope, I still don’t get it, lol.

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Xtians aren’t perfect, just forgiven.

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The very idea of a just war is bad. Necessary, maybe, but just?

I used to read Operation Just Cause as if it were “Just 'cause we can.” Can also read a lot of history as “What happened? War, just war.”

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It’s complicated. Are you proposing to ditch both jus ad bellum AND jus in bello?

https://iep.utm.edu/justwar/

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so, by contemplating the notion of conducting war in a more just manner (e.g. geneva conventions) one makes a fundamentally unjust process more likely to occur?

OK. seems reasonable.

But that was not the lesson the puritans took from just war theory, which was to reject constraints on warfare and humane conduct.

Four ways to approach it:

Just war is impossible: let us reject war entirely.

Just war is possible, but difficult: let us have fewer wars.
Just war is possible but difficult: let us run everything through the lawyers first.

Just war is impossible, but God will know his own.

part of a symposium:

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Oh geez, you just made me think of something: The USA broke up from the British Empire because rich white property holders could no longer stand being imperialized by…rich white property holders?

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Well that has led to a couple of lengthy and well-sourced articles. Unfortunately I don’t have time tonight to read through them, (had to work past 0300) but it’s interesting. I’ll read through them and think a bit. Thanks for that lead. I love stuff like this.

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Worth reading:

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Worth reading but as an explainer it doesn’t touch on the fact that white supremacy was necessary to the felt well-being of the dirtbag wealthy. The slavers, the mining companies, the transportation monopolies.

It sucks that the framework of caste systems around the world is rarely linked directly to the thieving rich dirtbags who rely on them. The rich fund bigotry. The rich rely on bigotry. Most of them never hesitate to prop it up or lie about how necessary it is to them.

Yet the white bigot tools that prop the system up are never called out in these “explainers” as having anything more than some vague perversion. Like a religion or a gang affiliation rather than specific direction from some rich scumbag with an interest. There’s always some country club scumbag pulling the strings.

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Anna Borgia of Florida was a Trump supporter until…

:exploding_head: What was she expecting from a kleptocracy?

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“Members only.”

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From US v Melgen

Salomon Melgen, an ophthalmologist practicing in Palm Beach County, was
charged in a 76-count indictment broadly alleging that he operated a multi-year scheme to defraud Medicare. At trial, the government argued that Melgen had systematically diagnosed his patients incorrectly and prescribed medically unnecessary treatments.

This Florida Women was left blind after being “treated” by Melgen

As the Daily Beast says:

“At the time I could see out of both of my eyes,” Cunningham noted. “I went to see Dr. Melgen. He diagnosed me with macular degeneration in the wet type.”

While only 15 percent of people with macular degeneration have the “wet” variety, Melgen reached this diagnosis 97.8 percent of the time, an incidence that prosecutors would term “remarkable.”

“He said he could treat me; that he would give me needles, injections in my eye once a month, and that this should help the macular degeneration,” Cunningham told the judge. “ So I said okay.”

The ”wet” diagnosis enabled Melgen to bill Medicaid and insurance companies for such injections, which are supposed to be administered from a single-use vial. Melgen routinely treated as many as four parents with one vial. But he charged as if he had used four, thereby quadrupling a $2,000 bill to $8,000. That would have been just theft if the repeated insertion of needles in a single use vial did not greatly increase the chance of infections such as Cuningham began to suffer in her right eye.

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The day then came when Melgen announced she had a tear in the retina of the eye that had been giving her no trouble…

“I said, ‘Doc, I don’t know how it happened,’” she told the court. “He said, ‘I have to operate.’
“[Melgen] said, don’t worry about it, my dear,” she told the court. “I had three surgeries in that eye.”

She ended blind in that one as well. The referral she got at a Bingo game ended with her unable even to see the numbers and letters. And, with her husband’s death in May 2012 from causes unrelated to the treatments, she was on her own.

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That’s scary. My grandpa gets those shots. In his case it’s almost certainly legitimate, but the thought that there are people out there using things like that to prey on others is just unsettling. Preying on patients who wouldn’t even be there if they didn’t need help - the most vulnerable, the elderly who won’t be around long to challenge it. That’s lower than low. Pure evil.

Generally our justice system is harsher than it should be. But I’d go along with the idea that we should have some kind of special punishment for egregious acts of evil by predators.

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