LA ICE Protest Topic

A lot of other threads have become largely about the LA ICE protests and news. While some of that is appropriate for those topics, I didn’t see a good place for some of the, let’s say, less orange discussion points and news.

So it looks like the California AG wisely applied for the TRO on the National Guard and Marine deployment in the Northern District of California, where T**** has ZERO appointed judges. It’s not even jurisdiction-shopping, or at least defensible, because the Southern District of California is located four blocks from the bulk of the protest.

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LA Mayor Bass had a press conference admonishing people for breaking shit.

I get it, but if the priority isn’t prosecuting LAPD officers who attacked peaceful protesters or journalists, screw that. If LAPD dirty cops aren’t in jail, then they shouldn’t be putting vandals in jail.

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Stuff on tactics and what to do with tear gas etc lots and lots WATER.

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Milk is better. I take an insulated water bottle full of skim milk to protests, just in case.

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There is no evidence that baking soda or milk is better than cool water alone. There is one small randomized controlled trial that found that baby shampoo is no better than water. Using baby wipes or makeup wipes if water is not immediately available may cause increased irritation.

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Huh. I was given that advice from someone who actually has been tear gassed. Maybe it’s better just for immediate soothing then. I don’t.

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They also have first hand experience. They also recommended Sudecon Decontamination Towelettes.

Weirdly I can’t get to the homepage of that product…

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I wonder if it comes from the fact that milk is very slightly more effective than water at neutralizing the effects of capsaicin when you eat hot chile peppers, and many tear gases use pepper spray? Even with eating hot peppers, though, the milk is only very, very slightly better than water. The problem with capsaicin, both in eating it and in pepper sprays and tear gas, is that it’s not water soluble. That makes it very persistent in staying around in places that cause lots of pain.

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Ugh, people are going goofy about Newsom’s public address. I mean, it’s the bare minimum. It only looks courageous in contrast to T****’s perfidity. It’s nauseous to see people talking about him looking “presidential.” He only looks that way in comparison to a guy who can barely walk or say a complete sentence and can’t remember what he had for lunch.

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Black Cross volunteers did their own tests.

https://blackcrosscollective.org/trials.php

Aside from water, lots of water, they state "What’s worked well and is still in the running is:

  • liquid antacid (ie Maalox)- seems to work only on eyes - not on skin. Mineral oil followed by alcohol- only on skin- never in the eyes
  • hairdryer -from the Scottish literature works quite well (though is obviously impractical)
  • Chinese burn cream- has worked on skin for some not all- not for use in the eyes"

But reformulations since that test may change things.

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Can get them on Amazon, for those who use it.

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From the article:

it’s not clear how large the anti-Trump crowd might be in Washington. Officials said they expect hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters to be there.

We’ll see if that actually happens. I commute into DC, and I don’t see any of the obvious signs of a large number of people coming in for an event. No heavier traffic than usual, no larger influx of Turons on the streets than usual, no crowd control barricades on the obvious parade routes, no traffic redirection in preparation for a huge event.

My guess is that he’ll have fewer people than his first inauguration, and people who do show up will include Non-MAGAts who just like to see the military hardware. (Which is what I would do on Saturday if it the Fanta Fascist wasn’t involved in it.)

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