Molesters Being Outed

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And this is the part where what is and isn’t inappropriate (and in which era of history) becomes very, very important:

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It looks like #metoo is starting to shine light into religious communities, too:

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Okay this is going to be an even longer thread…

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ā€œYou’re talking about Donald Trump, you’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual, who never raped anybody and of course understand that by the very definition you can’t rape your spouse,ā€ Cohen can be heard telling Tim Mak, then a reporter for The Daily Beast, in newly released recording from 2015. In a story published by NPR, Mak included clips of Cohen’s threats after Mak asked the campaign about a past claim by Trump’s ex-wife Ivana Trump that he had raped her.

So they’re claiming marital rape isn’t rape…

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That made it into the story; it’s just the recording and the threats that are new.

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That was the real outcry over Todd Akin’s ā€œlegitimate rapeā€ comments a few years back. He somehow had this idea that forcible rape was different than date rape or marital rape,* and apparently this was something that was widely accepted. His medieval understanding of how babies are made was just icing on the cake.

*yeah I know, they are by no means mutually exclusive

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Yes, that too.

But ā€œit would be marital rape, not real rapeā€ is … not a good defense.

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Given how hard it is for men to come forward about shit like this, I believe Brendan.

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I believe him. And what the hell, journalists. ā€œIt was a joke?ā€

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Yup.

Save us from the ā€œniceā€ guys.

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LOL, I had to look up Chris Hardwick.

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That’s a ā€œniceā€ guy?

I mean… even with the scare quotes, what was nice about Hardwick’s way of treating her?

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Nothing. It’s always the guys that ā€œseemed so niceā€ or are ā€œhey, I’m a nice guyā€.

There’s a whole pattern of guys who claim up, down and sideways (and/or get others to do it for them) about how ā€œniceā€ they are, while pulling shit like this. And then can’t understand why women leave and/or avoid them. Hence the quotes.

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Yup. See also, ā€œIt’s not like I hit her or anything.ā€

There was a TV episode, probably a Law & Order (wait!) that went into this nicely.

Wife is trying to prove her cop husband abuses her.

He keeps claiming he’s never laid a hand on her.

She keeps showing physical evidence (bruises, broken things). He says she’s crazy and setting him up.

Finally the good guys hear what sounds like an altercation, rush in… and she’s sobbing over turned-over furniture while he insists ā€œhe never laid a hand on her.ā€

So she starts yelling. Yeah, he never laid a hand on her, but she’s not allowed to wear red, not allowed to wear makeup, no shoes that even have a slight heel, not allowed to get a job… but he never laid a hand on her, so she can’t leave and expect even the meagre protections the courts will grant battered wives.

As one might expect from TV, they didn’t really get it right, but they did try.

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Okay, I get ya. I’ve known that type. I just hadn’t seen evidence that Hardwick was that specific subspecies of asshat; he always struck me as a patently obvious full-of-himself shitheel.

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It’s the line his defenders are using. ā€œHe’s a good guy.ā€ If he was, this wouldn’t be happening. Chloe’s description rings true. Good/nice/decent guys don’t do things like that.

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The guts it took for Terry Crews to stand up? 50 can drop off the fucking planet.

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