And this is the part where what is and isnāt inappropriate (and in which era of history) becomes very, very important:
It looks like #metoo is starting to shine light into religious communities, too:
Okay this is going to be an even longer threadā¦
āYouāre talking about Donald Trump, youāre talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual, who never raped anybody and of course understand that by the very definition you canāt rape your spouse,ā Cohen can be heard telling Tim Mak, then a reporter for The Daily Beast, in newly released recording from 2015. In a story published by NPR, Mak included clips of Cohenās threats after Mak asked the campaign about a past claim by Trumpās ex-wife Ivana Trump that he had raped her.
So theyāre claiming marital rape isnāt rapeā¦
That was the real outcry over Todd Akinās ālegitimate rapeā comments a few years back. He somehow had this idea that forcible rape was different than date rape or marital rape,* and apparently this was something that was widely accepted. His medieval understanding of how babies are made was just icing on the cake.
*yeah I know, they are by no means mutually exclusive
Yes, that too.
But āit would be marital rape, not real rapeā is ā¦ not a good defense.
Given how hard it is for men to come forward about shit like this, I believe Brendan.
I believe him. And what the hell, journalists. āIt was a joke?ā
Yup.
Save us from the āniceā guys.
LOL, I had to look up Chris Hardwick.
Thatās a āniceā guy?
I meanā¦ even with the scare quotes, what was nice about Hardwickās way of treating her?
Nothing. Itās always the guys that āseemed so niceā or are āhey, Iām a nice guyā.
Thereās a whole pattern of guys who claim up, down and sideways (and/or get others to do it for them) about how āniceā they are, while pulling shit like this. And then canāt understand why women leave and/or avoid them. Hence the quotes.
Yup. See also, āItās not like I hit her or anything.ā
There was a TV episode, probably a Law & Order (wait!) that went into this nicely.
Wife is trying to prove her cop husband abuses her.
He keeps claiming heās never laid a hand on her.
She keeps showing physical evidence (bruises, broken things). He says sheās crazy and setting him up.
Finally the good guys hear what sounds like an altercation, rush inā¦ and sheās sobbing over turned-over furniture while he insists āhe never laid a hand on her.ā
So she starts yelling. Yeah, he never laid a hand on her, but sheās not allowed to wear red, not allowed to wear makeup, no shoes that even have a slight heel, not allowed to get a jobā¦ but he never laid a hand on her, so she canāt leave and expect even the meagre protections the courts will grant battered wives.
As one might expect from TV, they didnāt really get it right, but they did try.
Okay, I get ya. Iāve known that type. I just hadnāt seen evidence that Hardwick was that specific subspecies of asshat; he always struck me as a patently obvious full-of-himself shitheel.
Itās the line his defenders are using. āHeās a good guy.ā If he was, this wouldnāt be happening. Chloeās description rings true. Good/nice/decent guys donāt do things like that.
The guts it took for Terry Crews to stand up? 50 can drop off the fucking planet.
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