Printing In The 3rd Dimension

Most of the stuff I print are found models on the usual repositories (Thingiverse, Printables, MakerWorld, etc.) but I’ve designed a few things using TinkerCAD- It’s absolutely a “Baby’s first 3d modeling” application and it has some serious limitations, but for the utilitarian stuff I’ve done up (brackets primarily, but that biohazard sign was something I did as well) it works well enough.

I started with a PrintrBot Simple Metal (RIP to both the company and the machine), went to an ill-advised purchase of a very flaky dual head Flashforge Dreamer that had most of the controller boards and servo boards flake out on it, a Creality CR-6SE (basically an Ender3 with a number of quality of life upgrades) and my current hotness, a Bambu Lab X1C with AMS, which is going to have the Hydra mod installed in it at some point soon.

I would love to have a fully kitted out Prusa XL, but at nearly $5000 with shipping, that’s well outside my range, and while Prusa’s quality and support is very good (they did make the first good commercial quality printer born of the RepRap project), even getting the kit version is still too much for me. (it essentially knocks the shipping cost down, but then I get to spend a day putting it together and munching on the XL bag of gummies they include with it. :smiley: )

For a rank beginner to the hobby, I’d suggest an A1 mini or an A1 from Bambu Labs, questionable recent actions aside- It’s a bed slinger with access to the same model infrastructure and about 90% of the capabilities of the P1 / X1 series at a fraction of the cost. And if you do upgrade to one of the CoreXY style models later on, it makes for a good secondary machine.

Creality’s claim to fame is the sheer number of variations on the i3 style bed slinger they have- even the Ender 3 which put them on the map, has multiple versions of it, and they sell all of them, so it’s a little confusing if you don’t know exactly what you want. Creality also has QC issues, so their printers range from ‘works out of the box’ to ‘needs tweaks to make work right’, down to ‘caught fire when I plugged it in’. (the first batch of CR-6 units had that, and I ended up re-building the power inlet system on mine when it’s power switch blew out on me.)

Indeed- a number of people are still ranting and frothing at the mouth over Bambu Labs pulling a “I am altering the deal- pray I don’t alter it further” move last month. Me, after dealing with the printrbot’s handful of upgrades and sudden demise (can’t replace the hot end if the company making them has died…) and the headache that was the Flashforge, I wanted a printer that was an actual tool and not a hobby unto itself. That’s why I went with the X1C- by and large, the only thing I’ve had to do with it is clear a few jams on the AMS side and I’m due to give it some maintenance.

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That’s good. But for me – and many other people – the lockdown is a prelude to suscription. You don’t make a local printer force to authenticate online if you don’t plan to further lock it down.

Qidi for me seems a better proposition and fills more or less the same niche, with ready to go hardware¹ coupled with open source software, so even if they go under, the community should be able to take over, assuming there’s enough traction for that.

Creality is a good option on the low end market. The Ender 3 is basically the standard everyone copied (technically itself was a copy of the prusa, but I digress), so is easy to find parts, and the old V1 model can be found as low as 99$! Though I personally recommend buying one that has autolevelling, for convenience. I don’t really like much the Creality K1C. Had one briefly and did found it small and noisy, so I cannot opine on the new CoreXY.

Anycubic used to be really good, one of the first to offer ready to print systems. I still have a Vyper, which basically was a fully kitted out Ender 3, that assembled by putting two screws and connecting the printer, and it was… like 280$. Slow for today’s standard but it required little calibration to get good prints. Unfortunately, their new platform from where they run the new printers is propietary and tied to their cloud so I cannot recommend them anymore.

I’ve heard a lot of great things about Sovol, but i have the feeling this is more like an oldschool company: printer will be okay, but you will need to tinker with it for it to be great.

Unless you love “projects”, stay away from Vorons. They are really amazing machines is like 40% tinkering/60% printing (the first two weeks 99% tinkering). Vorons are like F1, you don’t want one as your daily commute, but you can appreciate what they’ve done for the community in general, as the more useful voron developments eventually trickle down to the consumers.

There are many more brands, like Flashforge, and Elegoo but I haven’t done much research on them because they tend not to be really accessible in europe (or they are just outside of my price range), so I don’t have a strong opinion for or against them.

In short, Bambu did a great job waking up the manufacturers, but right now I would not buy one unless they really clarify their position. Otherwise I will treat it as any other “industry focused printer”: something that will require not only purchase of the printer but an ongoin maintenance that will not be handled by me… and that I cannot afford to :laughing:

¹ There has been a serious bug in the 110V of the Qidi plus4 but the system is quite modular and a replacement part was sent to all the buyers.

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I wanted to say that even the DIY printers are nowadays generations apart from what you could buy 5 years ago. Case in point:

This is a relatively simple build that you can assemble with mostly off the shelf parts. Is at least twice as fast as my Vyper, and 100 times as fast as my first printer – a reprap.

Not saying is a good “first printer” but I would have loved to have this as my first printer.

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The comments above on 3D printers makes me scared to get one! I think I’ll stick to services like Shapeways. It’s hard enough just trying to wrestle with Blender.

I did a fair amount of modeling at work (retired now thank goodness) using a program called GAMBIT. It was part of an industry computational fluid dynamics package called FIDAP (now Ansys FLUENT, last I heard) that was subscription and very expensive. I used it only for fluid flow simulations, back before 3D printers (and then toward the evolution of them). This was the late 1990’s until about 2010. We switched to a more modern program after that.

And now we have free CAD programs. Somehow I heard about Blender maybe 8 or so years ago, so got into that. Quite a steep learning curve and not the best interface, but it works.

My latest project is an “iron front” style building. Note this is only the front; I have some commercial plastic brick sheets I can use for the sides. Here’s a photo of a real building in this style:

I don’t think I’ll bother with the bay windows at the top.

It’s very ornate, but the good thing is that it’s a lot of repeated elements, perfect for copy and paste functions. I can’t imagine being an architect/draftsman back then and having to draw the same thing over and over (though in my naivety maybe draftsmen could somehow copy and paste too).

Anyway here is one floor of the building I created in Blender, though somewhat simplified and incomplete.

One thing I don’t like about Blender is the mix of keystrokes and mouse actions needed to do anything. I don’t know half of what you can do with interface to make it easier; I’d have to look at a lot of YouTube videos and trial and error to figure all that out. What I do know is good enough.

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Got it moving today

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Amazing!

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I’m not a Blender expert by any stretch of the imagination, but it might be worth looking into how to use geometry nodes.

Here’s an example from the documentation:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.2/modeling/geometry_nodes/geometry/duplicate_elements.html

By combining a few nodes, they were able to create an arbitrary number of duplicates offset consistently. I think this should make it possible to edit one, and all of the duplicates are automatically updated, no copy/paste necessary. In your project, it should be possible to repeat the arches (or pairs, as it appears) horizontally, and then use the output of that combined with the sides to generate a floor, which you can duplicate vertically and then combine that with a few other things to be able to generate buildings of arbitrary height and width. You could probably even take it further and create nodes that generate the pieces of the arch, etc. so that you can assemble the whole thing programmatically out of parts. Remember, I’m a weirdo, so everything looks like parts that I want to program…

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tenor

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I had no idea you could do that. Looks a lot easier than what I do.

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I’m pretty sure geometry nodes are a fairly recent addition to Blender, but they’re very powerful.

Here’s a possibly relevant tutorial:

Again, I’m not an expert. My daughter has expressed interest in learning Blender, and this channel is one that I found while looking for tutorials.

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One of the channels I like, he usually talks about materials and how to use them. Something I really pay attention to, because well, the right material can do magic :smiley:

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Modified first floor, with a door and raised posts for the columns. Then the second floor and 3 copies added, just to see how they look.


I still need a top floor that’s a little different.

I’ll need to rearrange the parts for printing though, with sprues and the like. Especially the columns, which would be a pain to paint in situ.

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I suppose it depends on how elaborate you’d like to get, i was curious and looked up some examples. Here’s some i liked :slight_smile:

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Ooh, that last one gives me ideas!—like a simpler top floor than that of the building my model is based on. Also a better entrance design—a car is blocking the doors so I had to wing it. I especially like the arched windows.

Thanks!

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Also, from the second photo, a ladder to show some repairs in progress. :smile:

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Your DNS sign hits hard :smiley:

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Here are the files and documentation for my puzzle:

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am I allowed to taunt it?

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Do NOT taunt

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