So who do we elect this year?

Even if it is true, so long as their PACs are American, they’re still ahead of Trump, ethically speaking.

It’s a criticism which had been launched at election committees as long as there have been election committees, all over the world.

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I see so many well thought-out statements from the Dem candidates these past few days, and I’m starting to wonder when the “sheep’s clothing” is going to slip?

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As a question of political philosophy, it goes back to Burkes “Speech to the Electors of Bristol”…

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Counting down the time until this dude gets busted in a men’s room somewhere…

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Which would, sadly, be more likely to discourage people from voting for him than anything Roy Moore has done.

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Translation: “That erection I got while watching Rocketman was totally the media’s fault!”

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sorry for the slow reply.

i’m mean basically, yes.

it’s possible to make the white middle and working class perfectly content without addressing the needs of black america.

i’d say that’s generally the point of racism. it’s what happens time and time again. let’s address this jobs issue. let’s address this tax issue. let’s address healthcare, and everyone else just be patient. someday we’ll talk about race. only that day never comes.

we don’t need ( and won’t have ) arm bands from 45, because skin color is the arm band you can never take off.

you have to specifically address how white privilege intersects with wealth. and you have to work specifically to detangle the two.

i think it sounds like we’re on the same page. i just haven’t heard what you said coming out of sander’s mouth. i actually believe the thoughts are there inside his head and behind his intention. i just really think he has to articulate it. because that’s what a leader’s job is all about.

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Now I want to see the Brendan Fraser/Michael Caine film again. One of Fraser’s best, and Caine is brilliant as always.

ETA: Yay! Hoopla has it.

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Have you seen Gods and Monsters?

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Yes, got it on DVD :grinning:

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I’m not quite sure where to post this story. So I’ll just put it here and be slightly provocative.

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This site is kinda old (and unfortunately annoyingly flashy, Marja, so approach with caution if at all), but they did seem to update it with the 2020 candidates and issues. Looks like it was coded in 1997, though, and somehow gave me a 100% match with Kamala Harris (and has Warren in 12th place for me, with only an 87% match, which strikes me as completely upside-down, but gives me a 99% for Bernie and a 3% match for Trump, so it’s not completely wrong), but it claims to do what you’re asking for. I last used it in the 2004 election, and it was pretty accurate for me then. (Matched me with Dean and Kucinich back then, which I felt was spot-on.)

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

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Thanks. It is a bit screwy-- gave me 100% with O’Rourke who wasn’t on my list.

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Yep. The questions were the minimum necessary to establish some granularity. It’s nowhere near enough.

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I’m sorry, but George of the Jungle forever has my heart.

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You also gotta hit the i button next to the candidates’ names after your results page comes up. It displays the specific positions and statements that candidate has taken on each of those 18 issues. I just took the survey again, spending a bit more time on the priority sliders, and now I match Marianne Williamson 100%, apparently. But Bern is still 2nd at 97% and Harris has dropped to 6th place while Warren has risen to 8th. (I’m still voting for Warren, and have donated to her campaign four times so far.)

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I think part of the problem is that health care is important for me, but either Medicare-for-all or the Public Option could be a step forward, depending how they’re done. And whether they’re accessible for disabled people. And whether they’ve vulnerable to political moves to exclude trans people, to exclude people using birth control, and so on.

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I noticed that some candidates have provided actual statements on some of the policy positions listed on the site, and for those who haven’t (like Warren) they list various organizations who seem to endorse or oppose their voting records and/or positions.

e.g. Healthcare Issues: Favors Medicare-for-all. Source
Warren co-sponsored Sandersís Medicare for All proposal in 2017. But she has said that the broader goal is “affordable health care for every American,” and that there are “different ways” to achieve that objective. She has previously backed legislation that would allow people to buy into a Medicaid-based public option on state insurance markets. Source
Received very high ratings from the American Public Health Association
Employment Issues:
Received very low ratings from The Campaign for Working Families, (anti-union, minimum wage, etc.);
Received very low ratings from the Competitive Enterprise Institute;
Received very high ratings from the AFL-CIO;
Received very high ratings from the AFSCME;
Received very high ratings from the SEIU

The other thing to keep in mind with SelectSmart is that we’re still fairly early in the election cycle, and they’ll keep adding information and refining position statements as the campaign drags on, so hopefully it’ll be even more useful as the primaries draw near.

My hope is that most of the people who would support a public option or Medicare-for-all will have reasonably evolved and progressive views, and would work to insulate those populations from exclusionary efforts. I’m a bit of a Pollyanna, I know, but that’s my hope.

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