So who do we elect this year?

just after the iowa caucus, on npr - possibly with those same two reporters - had a discussion of biden being fourth. they said something like:

“the common wisdom is that there are three candidates who come out of iowa.”

“well, biden certainly hopes so, but it doesn’t seem like it this time.”

warren, who was the person who came in third, was never mentioned.

it seems as if, now that cokie robertson has passed, they’re trying to keep her right of center view alive. occasionally, you’ll hear the other commentators push back ( with the facts ) but it’s startling sometimes the normalization of trump and the way they write off progressive policies

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Oh no, a wider field allows the party to vote for their choice :roll_eyes:. In 2016, GOP voters chose the most corrupt and bigoted candidate, Sanders in 2020 is the exact same thing by virtue of everything but virtue? Welcome to the next stage of democracy, dummy. [Ross Douthat in this case]

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Sanders Democrats Have Forgotten the Lessons of the 1919 Propaganda Film Bolshevism on Trial

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Got a 404 from that link.

Funny how Florida has always been fantasizing about a Bay of Pigs invasion to stamp out the specter of sex-crazed commies.

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Krugman has said that Sander’s stated commitment to socialism belies his actual policies.

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That’s typical of what Krugman will say when making the case about how the Overton window is distorted by Red-Baiting. It’s a distinction of actual central planning versus democratically-regulated mixed economy versus corporate central planning.

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regular people don’t care about the distinction between “democratic socialism” and “social democracy”

when they say they want “socialism” they mean something more socialistic than what we have now

if it “goes too far” there will be plenty of time to worry about then

we are not picking the final ultimate winner of the endless contest of history

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Every time she talks about Sanders, it’s clear she’s not being remotely objective about him.

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it’s interesting that he feels sander’s problem is with labeling, and buttigieg’s problem is with his ideas ( or at least specifically the defict hawk stance. )

i think generally sanders has done pretty poorly in the debates - i think warren is able to articulate progressive ideas better. that said, it’s painful to watch other democrats wheel out half truths and deliberate misunderstandings to attack him.

no matter how many times he explains that m4a will be cheaper than the current system, and that the current system is only going to get more expensive over time - everyone shouts him down and says “how are you going to pay for that.”

it’s a problem that they’re letting facts get in the way of their campaigns. if early on they had chosen to distinguish themselves by other/different signature initiatives instead of trying to shoot down universal healthcare… it’d have given me more hope that democrats had learned the lessons of the last four years

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YES WE CAN’T

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The story in this poll of olds is neither the R or D respondents. It’s the Is. They fear no Bernie.

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In the long bubble of governance, sometimes there’s a burp. This could be a loooooong belch around the world of kakistocracies. Too bad a lot of people are going to die—that’s kind of the hallmark of the worst of the worst. Maybe now that stock valuations are wobbling, Rump won’t seem like such a shoe-in to the idiots. Probably why they’re losing their minds.

* Necessary context

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