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yeah, good points. i really did love that it felt like the next part in a continuum, not a retread. i just thought it was amusing that the only thing i could find fault with was the light-up umbrellas. it could easily be explained away as a fashion that went out of style, but then again, clear raincoats seemed to have stayed around, so… shrug

If you’ve seen it now, what are your thoughts about the lack of people of color (Edward James Olmos’ cameo barely counts) and how all the nudity focuses only on women, with the brief exception of the replicant cadavers in the very beginning?

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The lack of people of color definitely struck me as weird while I was watching it, especially after having seen the three short films leading up to it, all of which prominently cast people of various ethnicities. The only Black person I remember seeing was the child slaver, which wasn’t the best er, representation.. That was definitely a strange choice to have such a caucasian cast in what would be a hugely multi-ethnic city.

I wasn’t as bothered about the nudity, since (unless I’m forgetting) the only nudity I saw was of the various versions of Joi, the Wallace “pleasure model”, and it was so brief (and transparent, and virtual) that it wasn’t a big focus of the film. Although there was that strange mesa of huge crumbling naked lady statues.

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there were plenty of people of color in the insurrection replicants, if i recall. none of the nudity really registered with me, either, since it was all either so clinical or in the form of advertising, so meh.

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Oh, so that makes it all better, then.

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so your problem with it is that there were none, or that there were none where you wanted them?

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My “problem” is that nothing ever changes if nothing ever changes.

You loved it, goody goody gumdrops for you; the usual target market has been appeased - lather, rinse, repeat.

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not all changes can or need to be seismic. there were certainly positive changes in this movie. it is definitely not a standard “lather, rinse, repeat” big-budget movie, let alone a sci-fi one.

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You’re entitled to your opinion.

For me, it was all style over substance; equally as underwhelming as Prometheus, and just as pretty… but that’s all it was. But then again, I’m not the target demographic, either; as long as cis/het White dudes are happy, that’s all that matters.

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i really hate hearing that. i thought prometheus was dismal. one of the worst movies i saw that year. the acting, the story, and the plot were so bad i didn’t even notice whether it was pretty or not. the actions of all the characters were so stupid and illogical it got to the point that every time a character had to make a decision i thought “what is the most stupid, life-threatening and illogical choice possible here” and sure enough that was what the character did.

in my opinion, the original “blade runner” was a useful film because it made a moral statement about slavery that would force a white audience to have to rethink their beliefs about the harms of slavery because the slaves in this case were all white. it annoys the fuck out of me that this film apparently washes out so badly on that score.

btw, my go to movie for when i’m dealing with a facebook friend or a personal acquaintance who tries to argue the notion that “slavery wasn’t so bad because . . .” is this one:

it’s merciless.

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Sorry; I’m not trying to taint your perspective on a film that you haven’t seen yet, so my bad.

Perhaps the comparison to Prometheus is unfair, because that really was one mess of a movie; one which certain friends of mine are still trying to convince me it “wasn’t so bad.”

O_o

That said, the emotional disconnect makes it hard for me not to compare the two films; both were incredible to look at in regards to the cinematography, and yet both still left me feeling completely indifferent when it came to the characters.

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since i’m not in that perceived demographic, and yet i loved it, i’m not sure where that leaves us.

it has as least as much substance (actually far more) than the recent Mad Max movie, and that was praised to the heavens.

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Okay, now I just think you have crappy tastes in movies if you think BR2049 had “substance” but Fury Road somehow didn’t… but whatevs; life goes on.

You do you, and I’ll continue to do me.

Cheers.

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ha! and i think you need to see Blade Runner again. :kissing_heart:

agreeing to disagree, but we’ll see which one stands the test of time.

No offense intended, but I’d rather go have my teeth cleaned at the dentist;

At least that doesn’t take three hours that seem to drag on endlessly, and I’m actually invested in the final outcome.

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that’s sad. i was really appalled by “prometheus” to the extent that 30 or 40 minutes in i started watching it with an eye towards the concept of “so bad it’s funny” but it didn’t even meet that standard. otoh, i thought “fury road” was outstanding.

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Prometheus was a dismal film with a lack of imagination and zero respect for the intelligence of its audience. I was happy that the new Blade Runner wasn’t any of those things; in my opinion, if you enjoyed the world the first movie created, you’ll very much appreciate spending another three hours exploring it. Based on reviews and the reactions I’ve seen online, most people seem to agree.

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I’m watching (more like listening) to the Internet Archive livestream of “20th Century Time Machine - The Internet Archive’s Annual Celebration LIVE”

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just saying: for a fun, pretty in-depth exploration of Blade Runner 2049, Adam Savage and co-hosts at Tested.com are on it:

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Moving right along;

I just finished Ep 1 of the second season of Van Helsing;

I’m ain’t mad.

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