Alt-right march in Charlottesville

I think the most surprising part of this is that he was at Trump Tower.

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By 3:30 a.m., three of the city’s four monuments had been removed. They included the Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson Monument, a double equestrian statue of the Confederate generals erected in 1948; the Confederate Soldiers and Sailors Monument, erected in 1903; and the Roger B. Taney Monument, erected in 1887.
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The fourth statue, the Confederate Women’s Monument, was dedicated in 1917. Pictures showed that it too had been taken down early on Wednesday.

Also of interest:

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The fuck even is that. I thought some general had taken his phone or some shit.

I knew better, but I looked it up. And, of course, the leader of the NC KKK lauding her death.

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Sorry about that. I had briefly typed something more specific there, but I decided that I really, really didn’t want to repeat that garbage in my own text, even to decry it.

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Right? He doesn’t even use her name???

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no. not everyone can be a hero in the heat of the moment. i’m super happy so many people are on-hand to record things like this from multiple angles and get it out into the world ASAP, so we can catch these assholes.

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also works on notzee assholes, who have been repeatedly proven to exist.

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Except…

The woman who helped pull down a (different) Confederate monument has been arrested, but no one from the video of Deandre’s attack has. It’s only good if LE are willing to use it.

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today pence has said:

What happened in Charlottesville was a tragedy, and the president has been clear on this tragedy and so have I,” Pence told reporters on Wednesday. “I spoke at length about this heartbreaking situation on Sunday night in Colombia, and I stand with the president and I stand by those words.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346835-pence-responds-to-trump-remarks-i-stand-with-the-president

no, sir. it wasn’t a tragedy, it wasn’t a situation. it was murder.

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So, there’s been a lot of uproar and symbolic gesturing, but is it leading anywhere? Or is this just the new normal setting in?

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Depends.

Nothing has changed in establishment terms. The TrumpGOP are undeterred, the RNC-GOP will continue to make empty gestures of criticism while not acting.

The establishment Dems will cluelessly celebrate this (mostly in private) as a great marketing opportunity to assist with their deluded fantasy of a future electoral win.

It may have an impact on the streets, though. People are finally waking up to why antifa is necessary.

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In a statement, the Lee family said the life of the commander of the Army of Northern Virginia “was about duty, honor and country.”
“At the end of the Civil War, he implored the nation to come together to heal our wounds and to move forward to become a more unified nation,” the statement said. “He never would have tolerated the hateful words and violent actions of white supremacists, the KKK, or neo-Nazis.”

Even actual Confederate heritage is disavowing the white supremacists.

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Maybe Charlottesville turns up the heat on Trump to fire Bannon, leading Breitbart to turn against Trump.

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The shitshow will just swirl more rapidly. Bannon has a genievial smile to seem reasonable and has held on this long while the other non-billionaires have flamed out immediately. He’s what passes for brains in the West Wing and knows how to not self-destruct. Bannon won’t be gone until we see the backside of The Rump.

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I don’t think he’s lose Breitbart. I think Breitbart would position it as a betrayal by the GOP rather than by Trump and going hard after the TraitorGOP.

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sidebar thought: i read somewhere that a lot of media is reporting that they were giving “nazi salutes,” but apparently there’s a KKK salute that is very similar but they maintain is different – it’s about chest-high, palm down, fingers spread, thumb tucked in. anyone know about the symbolism behind it? i’d google it, but i’m averse to diving into alt-right sites. anyway, it’s all hate signaling to me, but i’m just trying to be educated about all the various symbolism out there.

Unicorn Riot - doing some great reporting.

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Stonewall Jackson’s family also. His great-great-grandsons published an open letter about this:

Last weekend, Charlottesville showed us unequivocally that Confederate statues offer pre-existing iconography for racists. The people who descended on Charlottesville last weekend were there to make a naked show of force for white supremacy. To them, the Robert E. Lee statue is a clear symbol of their hateful ideology. The Confederate statues on Monument Avenue are, too—especially Jackson, who faces north, supposedly as if to continue the fight.

We are writing to say that we understand justice very differently from our grandfather’s grandfather, and we wish to make it clear his statue does not represent us.

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