Election Fallout

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Indeedy, lotsa shoodyfroody.

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I have a friend that works for the VA, he has a masters degree in education but he left the education field a couple years ago.

They just moved and bought a new house quite a distance from the main office because he works from home for the VA.

It appears he may have to go back to the office, because the new guy wants people in the office, unless of course his job gets cut.

Guess who they voted for because pro life anti everything else.

I’m making some window stickers for my car and a couple t-shirts.

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Trump’s people would looove to see the US Army taking back a sanctuary city.

Also Trump would love it too. He would even be OK with some property destruction. It would allow him to settle old scores and clear space for property development.

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Oh, so Biden is trying to get some things done before the bull enters the China shop again?

https://archive.ph/dGvsr

Rivian, a relatively new company that makes only electric vehicles, plans to produce sport utility vehicles and hatchbacks at the factory, in Social Circle, Ga., near Atlanta.

The loan agreement will be binding once the Department of Energy and Rivian sign a contract, which is expected to take place before Mr. Trump’s inauguration in January.

“Rivian will work closely with D.O.E. to close the loan quickly,” the company said in a statement.

The project is in a congressional district represented by a Republican, highlighting how much Biden administration clean energy policies have benefited regions where most voters back conservative politicians, including Mr. Trump.

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Yeah, but see RAND thinks the optics are BAD, so it’ll never happen… he prefers a more orderly ethnic cleansing… :rage:

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This plant has not been without it’s controversies…

And here is how the current discussion over the loan is going from the local public radio station:

Kemp’s been trying to have his cake and eat it too with regards to the green energy industry…

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Great image, I put it in the Cartoons thread. :+1:

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I know, right? Eichmann was livid when the Hungarians started messing up the quotas.

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That is a powerful read.

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That was a great rebuttal to this report that made headlines yesterday:

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“Conservative Pressure” = slight breeze

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Fixed.

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NYT 11/26/2024

Good morning. We’re covering an analysis of the 2024 election — as well as Jack Smith, Pakistan and mashed potatoes.

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Barack Obama in 2007. Keith Bedford for The New York Times

‘I’m one of them’

It remains Barack Obama’s most underrated political skill: his appeal to working-class voters, including those who are white.

Obama won most voters without a four-year college degree in his two presidential campaigns. Those majorities helped him win Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in both campaigns. He even won Indiana and North Carolina once.

He did so by both speaking to the economic frustration that resulted from years of slow-growing wages and signaling that he, like most Americans, was moderate on social issues. He made clear that he understood people’s anxiety about the speed of cultural change.

He talked about “an awesome God” in the 2004 speech that made him a national figure. He rejected sweeping new policies like single-payer health care. He traveled to the University of Notre Dame as president and said he wanted to reduce the number of abortions. He supported civil unions rather than same-sex marriage when most voters felt similarly.

He went on MTV and complained about people who wore their pants too low. (“Some people might not want to see your underwear — I’m one of them,” Obama said.) He took a middle ground on immigration, criticizing both family separations and companies that undercut “American wages by hiring illegal workers.”

As time has passed, I think some people have forgotten how conservative Obama could sound. This approach sometimes angered progressives. They called him a sellout, a neoliberal and “the deporter in chief.” But Obama was genuinely moderate in some ways. He also hated treating political disagreements as existential and opponents as the enemy.

“This idea of purity and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically woke and all that stuff — you should get over that quickly,” Obama told young activists after leaving office. “The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws.”

Perhaps above all, Obama liked winning. He understood that a Democratic Party that treated the country’s working-class majority as backward or hateful would probably lose those voters. He recognized that sounding like an economic populist, as Obama often did, was not enough. Many people — rich, middle-class and poor — vote on social issues and values at least as much as on taxes and spending.

Nate Cohn, The Times’s chief political analyst, yesterday published an analysis of how voting patterns have shifted since Obama’s 2012 re-election. And those numbers demonstrate just how badly the Democratic Party’s post-Obama strategy has fared.

What Obama and Trump share

After Obama, the party moved left on one big issue after another — Medicare, gender, border security, policing and more. It’s true that Kamala Harris tried to move back to the center this year, but her moderation never had the self-assurance that Obama’s did. It could seem tactical and reluctant. She refused to explain why she had changed her mind about fracking, border security and “Medicare for all.” When asked whether she supported any abortion restrictions, she avoided the question.

The Democrats’ post-Obama leftward turn was based on a specific theory of the electorate: that the country’s growing number of voters of color would cover the loss of working-class whites. Under this race-centric theory, Donald Trump looked like a gift to Democrats. He made racist and sexist comments. He resembled a caricature of the backward voters Democrats were happy to leave behind.

But the Democrats’ theory was wrong. As they moved away from Obama’s approach and toward the purer progressivism that’s popular among college professors, pundits and activists, the party didn’t win over more voters of color. Instead, Democrats have lost ground with every major racial group except white voters, as Nate’s analysis shows:

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A key reason is that Trump’s anti-establishment populism appealed to working-class voters across racial groups. Trump also helped himself by adopting a mirror image of Obamaism and seeming to reject Republican orthodoxy on subjects like Social Security, Medicare, abortion and foreign wars.

Different though they are, both Obama and Trump approach politics as if class matters more than race. Sure enough, Trump’s biggest gains have come among the nonwhite working-class voters who were Obama’s strongest supporters:

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Not simple moderation

As the Democratic Party tries to figure out a way forward, it can’t merely mimic Obama. The country has changed, partly because of Trump. Nor can the party assume that the answer is simply to moderate its position on everything. The Democrats who won tough races this year were more heterodox. They sometimes sounded like Bernie Sanders when talking about foreign trade or corporate America and Joe Manchin when talking about government regulation or social issues. They also sounded authentic.

Still, Obama’s success remains relevant. It highlights the importance of treating working-class voters’ opinions respectfully rather than talking down to those voters. And it’s a reminder that no Democrat since Obama has come up with an approach that works as well as his did.

Related: Democrats in Georgia and North Carolina are dissecting their 2024

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Um, okay…

Um, at least one word missing in front of 'people" there is “black.” And that wasn’t simply a way of “appealing” to white working-class voters. It was instead a centrist’s way of pandering to their racism.

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Dems need to drive home everything T**** does that hurts them. Tariffs causing inflation? Needs to be front and center. Deportation affecting American citizens (they will definitely illegally deport Americans)?Drag each case in front of the American consciousness. Tax cuts for the wealthy and businesses crashing the economy? Drive each catastrophe home in front of the people in such a way that even their short attention spans won’t forget it. I’d even go so far as to say, “You voted for this.”

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