Election Fallout

“Wouldn’t be prudent!”

/s

< sigh >

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Not in my state. We voted back in the mid-term to abolish slavery in the state constitution. Which seemed a little weird at the time, but turned out to be prescient.

It got 89% approval, which is good, but then those 11%, like wtf dude?

We also voted for an amendment for personal reproductive autonomy, which got 77% of the vote. And again for those other 23%, wtf?

At least we got those rulings in place in time. Probably should’ve done some more.

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maybe not from your state or local prisons, but I’m sure they have federal prisons in your state…

but also… GOOD FOR YOUR STATE… seriously! I wish we could do that at the national level… :sob:

At least you do have those…

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I want to go through this one a little more thoroughly later, but this specific line really jumped out at me.

Are you fucking kidding me?!?!

Moved left? What the actual fuck? I mean, yeah, this is in the NYT, but who in the hell thinks the Democratic party has moved left?!?

I just … okay, no, I’m walking away for a bit. I do want to address some specifics in that article, but I just can’t do it right now, if only so I don’t start throwing things.

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Maybe, but also… not helpful. This will be weaponized and used to justify rounding up those on the left, whether or not they did anything like this.

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agreed.
my knee-jerk reaction is simple lizard brain response of “sucks when it happens to you, huh?” and it is, indeed not helpful to anything.

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See fire, Reichstag.

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(Re: supposed bomb threats)

By other members of the cabinet, one would assume.

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That’s in their plans anyway. Oh, we haven’t even gotten to the Reichstag Fire yet.

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Oh yeah, I get that… I have that same reaction too, honestly.

Exactomundo!

Might be… or on themselves, to set the circumstances for (as Marja said) fire, Reichstag…

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I’m going to have to acknowledge that I just can’t rationally talk about most of that annoys me about this article’s supposed points, but I can’t let this one pass. Like people suggesting we "don’t let political differences stand in the way of being friends/family, it occurs to me how easy it to be “underst[and] people’s anxiety about […] cultural change” when you’re not having your civil rights questioned. Looking back a few decades to the civil rights movements of the 60’s and 70’s, may I assume President Obama might not have been so easy with the bigots who were “anxious about cultural change” at that time? (Or during the nadir period of the early 1900’s, even?)

Oh, hell no. It’s also not “sounded,” he really was conservative. I like Barack Obama, but he’s always been way too far right for me to be actually comfortable with him. He’s a hell of a lot better than most other recent presidents, but that doesn’t make him idea by any means.

What? Is everyone at the NYT high? (No objection to getting high, but I advise against publishing editorials that you wrote while stoned without serious review.) How, exactly, does Trump seem to reject the standard Republican stance on any of these issues? Examples, please, NYT.

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It seems to me that somebody is trying to sow further division in the US. (The election
was not enough.)

I wonder who gains from this? :thinking:

eta: sow vs. sew vs. sow… :face_with_spiral_eyes:

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I think MAGAts everywhere do. It legitimizes their claims that they’re the real victims, and more specifically, that the left is comprised mainly of “violent terrorists” (and therefore in extreme need of violent suppression).

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It could be, but there are other outside state actors that would love Trump to go authoritarian. I think Magats aren’t that clever.

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That seems to be the key difference between centrists and progressives. Centrists consider policies that harm or kill others “politics” when progressives and those further left know that such policies aren’t politics but criminal activity normalized by the wealthy and powerful.

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Objective Commentator: "Cui bono "
MAGA: “Who let you into the US! Speak 'Merican!”

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Maybe, but then, we in the US just don’t draw and quarter our super-wealthy and ultra-power monsters. They get away with all sorts of pillage and murder, then retire, usually into obscurity, sometimes with a bit of shame clinging to their names.

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