The Situation in Israel/Palestine

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And Israel put the detainees on a bus, drove them out and turned them around. Theyā€™re both assholes. Fuck Hamas, fuck the current Israeli government. Fuck everyone who wantonly and knowingly violates human rights, I say. The families are suffering, the palestinians are suffering, they are going to destabilize the region for some shitty ideology that claims that some people are not fully human and deserves to be brutalized and have their children murderedā€¦

But overall, Israel holds more power here and has for a very long time. They are the ones who could have been working towards a solution that allowed the Palestinian people to live in peace and dignity. Instead, theyā€™ve spent decades now undermining any hope for peace. They donā€™t seem to understand that brute force will not lead to an end to conflict between their peoples, but will only continue itā€¦ which, frankly both the current government and Hamas want. They benefit from the conflict, even as their own people are brutalized. The violence visited upon the Palestinian people by the IDF only strengthenā€™s Hamasā€™ hand here, because many people see them as actually doing something, unlike PA.

If the Israeli people want peace (and I know that they do, mostly), then they have to push for a government that will help create a Palestinian state. But the current government will not ever do that. They are expanding the footprint of Israel into Gaza and the West Bank, southern Lebanon, and even into Syria. They are an expansionist state using religion to justify themselves. Until that changes, this conflict will continue and get even uglier. I wish to god it were different, but I think thatā€™s where we are right now.

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[ETA] Andā€¦

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The article buries the lede somewhat, given that the announcement also has Israel making their occupation of more territory permanent, completely ignoring the UN demilitarised zone.

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JFCā€¦ how can people not see how bad this is? Itā€™s literally them rehashing the Jewish question, but at someone else!!! Fucks sakeā€¦ it doesnā€™t have to be like this.

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It seems He tinks it is funny because itā€™s not him.

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I liked this skeet from the threadā€¦

Heā€™s not wrong. There was always 2 versions of the ā€œnever againā€ mantra - never again ANYONE, and never again US, and those are very different ways of thinking about the problem. But as people like Naomi Klein has suggested, weā€™re never all going to live in peace and freedom until we think hard about the roots of all this and how the Holocaust is connected to colonialism and the rise of capitalism more generally.

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So everything since has been the conventional toxic masculinity reaction to having been caught making a mistake?

Sadly, that checks out.

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