Well, fuck

Video of the crash has surfaced, which appears to be from airport staff who had been waiting to cross the runway. I won’t speculate, but it doesn’t look like the landing conditions were rough.

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It looks like the right-rear wheels collapsed.

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The current thinking seems to be that perhaps one of the landing gears didn’t deploy, or a gust of wind caused the plane to land only on one wheel, which collapsed, caused the fire, which seems to be at the rear, and then everything overbalanced. I can’t remember where I saw this, unfortunately.

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It doesn’t look like a gentle glide slope and really looks like it banged down hard. If there are low level gusts the pilot may have been pushing the nose over to compensate during the approach, then when the gust lets up the airplane gets whacked into the ground

Plane looks almost horizontal and flaps dont look like they are fully extended. Maybe they were going to go-around but they lost too much altitude. That’s based entirely on that short clip mind you.

Update: tower comms. were normal. If they were doing a go-around it would have been called as such over comms.

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In the US, 20 percent of people with measles are typically hospitalized. Five percent develop pneumonia, and up to 3 in 1,000 die of the infection. In rare cases (Doc’s note: About 1 in 10,000), measles can cause a fatal disease of the central nervous system called Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, which develops years after infection. Measles also wipes out immune responses to other infections (a phenomenon known as immune amnesia), making people vulnerable to other infectious diseases.

Just another harmless virus, right? Vaccines are poison, right? Then why does no one remember how horrible this illness really is??

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If one was vaccinated as a child, when might one want a booster, if at all?

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I got tested in 2019 and my measles and mumps titers were undetectable, got revaccinated then. That’s the real answer, get titers. But for most older adults, they will have faded. I was 54-55 then, so…

Waiting for Abbott and co to stop reporting the cases. You know they want to.

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Wow, close. Who won?

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10-out-of-10

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Why do you get titers rather than just going ahead and revaxing?

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If you want to know if you need them. Otherwise, shoot away. I got titers for everything when i went to work for UVA and got the boosters i needed. One of my colleagues had the Hep B shot at least 8 times and never was able to generate antibodies. Nothing is guaranteed.

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My former primary care physician kept encouraging me to get the shingles vaccine. However, I never had chickenpox. During my childhood, parents quarantined kids with communicable diseases to prevent them from spreading (unlike the “pox party” approach that became popular in later decades). My doctor didn’t believe I’d never been exposed to it, but the titer confirmed what I told her. :woman_shrugging:t5:

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Isn’t the shingles vaccine still useful to protect adults from chickenpox exposure later in life? Or is that another vaccine entirely? Or none, it’s too late now? (That should cover everything.)

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Getting chickenpox as an adult is majorly bad, I’d get vaccinated with one or the other (I kinda assume you have by now)?

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It’s another vaccine.

Yup. I just didn’t want to get the wrong one!

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They are taking on Dolly Parton? Seriously, is there no bridge too far anymore?

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My mom called me a couple of years ago when there was a minor polio outbreak in NYC and I was living in NJ to tell me that I never had the polio vaccine. Apparently it was no longer mandatory when I was the age to get it, because it was largely gone from life in the US, and because I was allergic to all kinds of stuff at the time, my pediatrician suggested I not get it, so I didn’t, apparently.

I still haven’t gotten a straight answer from my current doctor on whether I should try to get it now.

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Weird. It’s been required here as long as I’ve been practicing (1990, so, yeah…) The oral one, which would have been state of the art prior to 1999, was not really an allergy issue. Never seen an issue with the injectable, but anything is possible.

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I just know what my mom told me. I was born in 1968. I do know I went through a period in early childhood where I was extremely allergic to damn near everything. I couldn’t drink milk. We couldn’t have a real Christmas tree in the house. I couldn’t go outside if my dad was mowing the lawn. There were all kinds of medicines I couldn’t take. I have no idea what caused that, but I was like that for a few years. And then…I just outgrew them all. The only thing I think I’m allergic to now is pistachios. I did get all the other childhood vaccines, though, so I don’t know what’s up with the polio one. It’s also possible my mom was mistaken. She was recently diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. This was about two years ago she told me about the polio vaccine. He memory might have just been starting to glitch. Who knows?

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