I was supposed to see Laura Jane Grace last night, but she dropped out of the show because of this.
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Oh Jesus, that’s awful.
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At least my friend got news of the cancellation before we drove to Madison. She was supposed to do video work for that show.
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Yeah, for real. That would have been a waste.
I hope everyone is going to be okay.
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There might be a temporary setback, but Trek has gone away before and come back. It’s just too compelling of a story setting to fade away.
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The Cardassians will become the heros, saving the quadrant from Wokeness.
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Sure, what’s already there will always exist and we have lots of trek on DVD… but we’re in a media landscape where corporations seem to have no problems just axing shows or films and burying them, and then using copyright laws to ensure that they keep control over the thing…
Or, as @RAvery noted, making some kind of “anti-woke” trek…
I don’t know… it’s probably a silly concern in the grand scheme of things, given everything else happening… but still.
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Given their trajectory, they won’t be able to hold on to it for long. Their capitulation and its effects will be for CBS to bleed money. They won’t be able to just hold onto valuable assets like Trek. They will have to offload them for the cash.
No, it’s important. We need stories - especially ones that give an optimistic vision of the future.
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Finally- a reason for ICE to exist.
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The Romulans join them in the fight against IDIC, and Grand Nagus Brunt won’t shut up about how Zek and Rom supposedly ruined everything.
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They just re-write the end of DS9 to make the Dominion win and commit massive genocides across the alpha quadrant… 
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The Romulans will fight IDIC with their powerful DYOR.
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Star Trek is pretty high on the scale, but I’m kind of curious if there has ever been a sci fi show that has done at all well that could be described as “not woke”.
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(Sings ‘yo ho, yo ho a something’s life for me …’)
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Maybe Battlestar Galactica (the remake, of course)? I wouldn’t exactly call it anti-woke in the sense that it’s not glorifying fascism, but at the least, if I remember correctly, it was a lot of very flawed characters making a lot of difficult choices, and they didn’t always pick the most noble or morally correct ones. Paranoia and prejudice were rampant and the ending was sort of a religious-themed anticlimax rather than a triumphant affirming of everyone’s value as people.
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Good question… I don’t know…
Maybe! I’ve not watched it, so… I’ll leave it to others to decide on that.
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I thought it was, at one stage, the most merciless US TV response to America’s descent into lawlessness, abduction, torture, and murder during the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. It was brutally pointed.
Bearing in mind that the big show at the time was 24 which was wall to wall racism and torture apology.
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I agree that that was probably the intended message, though how well it would come across really depended on how decent the person watching was- choices that might horrify you or me might not bother a right-wing viewer, who wouldn’t even realize there was supposed to be a moment of a character sacrificing their humanity, with it often left ambiguous whether or not that sacrifice was truly necessary for their continued survival. What I mean is more, the universe and characters weren’t “woke”. Star Trek or Star Wars or Doctor Who are universes that, while potentially dangerous, embrace love, virtue, diversity and the wonder of being alive enough that many of us might want to live there, or at least visit. Nobody in their right mind would want to inhabit the Battlestar Galactica universe for even a day.
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