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So zero-sum game then.

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3 characters whose imminent demises I’ve never been overly worried about in the very short time I’ve been watching:
Jon, Dany, and Tyrion.
(Admittedly, the writers may choose to sacrifice one of these three in s8, for that extra “twist.”)

Everyone else is “fair game.”

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Ser Davos for the Iron Throne! :heart:

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Throne made of swords. For all we know it will with a pan out of everyone empaled on the iron throne.

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Daenerys-oh

(JK, Davos is awesome!)

I’d add to that at least two of the Starks will still be around - Bran, as he’s the 3 eyed raven (though the end of the White Walkers could be the end of the 3 Eyed Raven, too, and Sansa, since she’s shown some major development as character and is doing a good job as Lady of Winterfell. I think Arya might end up dead due to pure overestimation of her abilities on her part. I also think Yara will end up ruling in the iron Islands.

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Maybe on the original version George RR Martin envisioned:

Not so much, the TV version, though.

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Maybe, maybe not; especially given the horrible luck the Stark offspring have had ever since the beginning of the series.

Bran’s role as the 3-eyed raven seems more like an exposition device rather than anything truly pivotal to the narrative, so I could easily see him being killed off at the height of the conflict.

I agree about Arya, and have been utterly underwhelmed by Sansa, character growth notwithstanding.

I also agree about Yara if she survives. Remember, Euron is supposed to be even worse than Ramsey’s bitch ass.

ETA: No idea why the spoiler tags are not working for me.

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Could be, although I’d be inclined to think that the fortunes are turning around now? But maybe not. They are on the front line of the great war that actually matters. As for Bran, he’s the one who can reveal Jon’s true parentage and along with Sam, can show that he’s the true heir, not Dany. And yeah, Euron could be worse than Ramsey, but he hasn’t seemed that bad yet - just a typical reaver.

Weird.

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Try deleting the space after the first [spoiler] tag?

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he’s one of the very few left who not only has the chops, but who i also believe would be an actual GOOD ruler. which makes me fear for him, of course, because it seems clear that nobody that good can survive in Westeros, alas.

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Attempting to use spoiler tags again:

I think once Bran shares his info, he becomes disposable.

Think about it, for all the raven’s insight into ‘everything’ how useful has that actually been to the people of Westeros, most of whom don’t even know such a thing exists? Also despite the ‘all knowing’ claims, 3 Eyed Bran didn’t know that Jon’s birth parents were married until Samwell Tarly told him.

As for Euron, that bit about him being even worse than Ramsey comes directly from actor interviews and from Martin himself.

As you can see above, that made no difference.

@LockeCJ; any thoughts?

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I edited your post and moved the spoiler tags to their own line. That seems to have fixed it.

That seems to work for both posts, so I would say this:

  • For single line spoilers, leading and ending tags are fine.
  • For multi-line spoilers, put the tags on their own lines.
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Okay.

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Hmmm… something’s hinky.

That said, call me cruel but I’d melt the iron throne down and just start over; that thing is ugly as hell.

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Which? TV or the GRRM version above?

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Both, to be frank; though destroying it would be a symbolic act of changing the way that world is ruled.

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I dunno. The one in the books plays really well into the themes of power, and the danger it poses to both the ruler and the subject. And I think that picture has a terrifying loveliness to it.

On the other hand, the one in the show looks like someone was given the instruction: “Make a throne out of swords, and do it in the most boring and least expensive way you can.”

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Those are all fair points. Maybe Bran will go out in a direct confrontation with the Night King, although I’d be included to believe it’s going to come down to either the NK and Jon or the NK and Melissandra (since she said she has to come back to Westeros to die. As for him having to be told - I guess that’s the problem he can be all seeing, but he has to specifically look at that moment to see it. He has to know what to look for, I guess, so someone like Sam is useful, in that he’s well read on history. In the books, there are lots more Greyjoys (and Martells and Targaryans, for that matter) and the storylines for both places are greatly streamlined in the show, which probably makes sense. In the show, Ramsey seems far worse, but I think I remember Euron being worse in the books.

[ETA] The weird thing that was happening to @Melizmatic just happened to me, and I think I’ve figured it out - it doesn’t like paragraph breaks? It was not spoiler tagged, then I went and took out the paragraph breaks, and then it was spoiler tagged.

It’s true! Entirely unimpressive!

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Fair enough; I’ve never read the books, and only just recently binged the series.

It is pretty damn hideous and underwhelming.

The act of melting it all down (and reforging new swords from the metal) would make a statement about casting off the old tyranny and making a fresh start.

Westeros has a metric fuckton of ‘baggage…’

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Not the metaphor I would like to see; it makes the whole thing cyclical.

If the Iron Throne is going to be melted down, I’d want it to be reforged as something for the people; half of the story is about how much the high lords screw over the common folk in jockeying for position and power.

If the Iron Throne is a symbol of “The fighting is over, and you [everyone but the Targaryens] lost,” I’d want whatever it’s melted down and replaced with to symbolize “The fighting is over, and now your children can stop dying for the folly of lords and knights and kings.”

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Even better; I was just thinking of not wasting all that metal needlessly. They really harp upon “Valerian steel” and how rare it is.

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