I have so much anger when it comes to the sexist expectations and attitudes that are taken with men vs women. I’ve benefited from being a man but i’ve lived my life trying to be a good ally. I do think that men/boys should be expected to learn how to not just treat women better and respectfully but also they should be taught how to be functional whole ass human beings.
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Very well-put.
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Why TF is this even being argued about?! If most women hate it, why keep discussing it, and most of all, why TF has it been dragged into this of all threads?
Hell, I wanna know why TF it’s being discussed at all. Is this yet another man-trying-to-make-it-all-about-him thingy? That crap is beyond exhausting, and I would have thought anyone hangin’ here would be aware of that! This isn’t yahoo chat FFS!
Yup. Time to
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Me?
I’m here to listen,
I’m here to learn,
I’m here to be an ally,
And watch the patriarchy burn!
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Some states have banned rape prevention classes, starting with Florida.
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I need the angry reaction emoji
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Here’s what I don’t get. My dad was born in 1939. In Texas. He wasn’t raised to be like this. His mother was a strong woman. She worked outside the home, albeit part time, and she ran the household. Sure, she wasn’t clued in to all the finances, and so she had no idea what accounts they had when my grandfather passed away, but it’s not like my grandfather was some overbearing patriarch who kept my grandmother barefoot, pregnant, and stupid. She would have killed him. Then, in my family, my parents shared household duties, including cleaning. My mom stayed at home after my brother and I were born, but she went back to work when I was 10, and from that point on, my dad made breakfast every morning, and my mom made dinner. They didn’t split household chores 50/50, but my dad did a lot. And not just “man’s work”. And my parents made sure my brother and I knew how to cook, do laundry, clean, sew a button on a shirt, mow the lawn, change the oil on a car, and fix a flat. They did not believe in rigid gender roles, and my dad isn’t, and wasn’t, a misogynist. Again, he was born in 1939. In Texas. My brother was born in 1967 and he’s not like this either. WTF happened with Gen Z men? Where TF is this coming from?
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So we shouldn’t talk about it, or push back against shit that hurts us? We should just “ignore it”? How did that work with the far right movement that has just taken over the country? 
If we expect this to be a safe space, we should make it such. And that means asking people to think about the consequences of their language and demanding that they do better.
And given this is a thread for discussing misogyny, it’s the perfect thread of discussing why something is misogynistic, no?
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I hate it when shit like that STILL has to exist because of our broken social/moral/ethical structure.
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What’s the Finnish word for “vulva”?
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I apologize for ignoring a user. I apologize for failing to see merit in a discussion with a tone-deaf user.
I sure as hell don’t want to be part of the problem, nor cause any irritation or trouble.
Sorry.
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I wasn’t suggesting you were part of the problem or that you should not participate in this discussion… I want you to participate. If I misunderstood your comment, please let me know, but the whole thing started as a good faith effort to talk about some problematic language and why it shouldn’t be used… This is our space, and i think we should hash this stuff out rather than ignore it.
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You’re coming across a little passive-aggressive there. That’s not really helpful.
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Sorry.
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Reagan, 1980, was the start of the coordinated push for all of this. It was there before, but not as planned out.
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“Häpy”, I believe (though it can be applied to male genitals too, but mostly isn’t). Or “ulkosynnyttimet”, in a very clinical anatomical sense.
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These guys really do not have any self-awareness, do they?
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