Love the responses.
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Yeah, theyâre getting ratioed pretty hard.
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SAA still fucking up:
âAllegedâ? The fucker has already been found guilty of multiple abuses.
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Iâm dealing with this in one of my professional communities. I feel like thereâs this weird stretching that goes on: one part of the community wants progress, another does not. Or they donât know how to proceed. We need to keep the fight up and force them to do right.
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The second tweet doesnât seem to exist anymore. My guess is someone commented the same way you did.
It seems pretty obvious if someone is named from their own campus with warnings to report them to the police if they do show up, then yeah, itâs way past the âallegedâ phase.
Perhaps not obvious enough.
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Doesnât seem like they got the hintâŚ
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Nope. Definitely a fuckup.
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Quite a lot of people; they were getting thoroughly ratioed.
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https://www.saa.org/quick-nav/saa-media-room/saa-news/2019/04/17/saa-issues-an-apology
Okay, letâs rate this apology:
- Using the word âapologizeâ: Yes
- Acknowledging harm: Yes, though non-specifically
- Acknowledging fault: No (blames âthe situationâ for the âimpact, stress and fearâ but does not suggest that they are to blame for the situation)
- Detailing what they did wrong: No
- Detailing how their actions run contrary to their principles: No
- Offering support to those who they wronged: No
- Offering a specific commitment to prevent this from happening again: Yes
Overall, Iâd rate this apology a 4/10. Itâs an improvement upon their initial responses, to be certain, but itâs difficult to accept an apology as sincere when the apologizer never really goes into what they did wrong, and why it was wrong.
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Apolohwait.
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I have very much grown into the business of rating apologies, and this is a good rubric. Nice job. I tend to weight 2, 3 and 7 at two points in my scale.
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Thanks. Myself, I havenât specifically weighted these, but I would think that #4 would have to be the one I would weight highest. When you pester a kid into making an apology, how does the conversation go?
âNow apologize.â
âIâm sorry.â
"And what are you sorry for?"
âIâm sorry for [whatever].â
If your apology doesnât actually go into what you did wrong, I canât see how #7 can properly work to prevent you from doing the same thing again.
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I received a public apology about 6 mo ago that completely missed the point. It was a self-aggrandizing apology meant to convince people the apologizer had learned. Thankfully, people saw straight through it.
I still believe this person has no idea what they did wrong.
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I once saw a play called âSelf-Help for Dummiesâ (it apparently has since been renamed to âSelf-Help by Dummiezâ so I guess there was a trademark issue).
One of the characters was a compulsive apologizer, and had spun that into a career by composing apologies for large corporations.
Near the beginning of the play, one character does something to offend another (itâs been years; I honestly canât remember what) and the apologizer steps in to offer an apology to the aggrieved party on behalf of the offender. The person who for apologized to gets stopped in his tracks, and gets upset that he no longer has anything to be upset about, because âThatâs the most perfect apology Iâve ever heard.â
Later, the character explains his job, and how he specifically words the apologies to avoid attributing fault or acknowledging harm (e.g. âMr. Smith expresses regret for the events which occurred as he certainly did not intend any harm you may have receivedâ).
Itâs definitely helped tune my ear to the tricks people use to make apologies that donât actually apologise for anything.
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The opening paragraph was a bit cringy. They didnât say what happened, they didnât say whose fault it was, and they didnât say they were upset by it or that it was completely contrary to their principles. Whatâs more, they offered an âIâm sorry you were hurtâ to the victims, and I could hear the crickets chirping as they offered precisely nothing to make it up to those victims.
The other two paragraphs were empty verbiage designed to give the illusion of wheels being in motion, but in the immortal words of Babu Bhatt, "There are no wheels. There is no motion. "
I give this apology a D minus. They turned something in, but they barely tried and itâs obvious they learned nothing.
One step above an apolohno (not to be confused with the figure skater)
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Speedskater (although given how well he did on Dancing with the Stars, I can see how there might be some confusion).
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Trigger warnings out the wazooâŚ
A gang rape so bad that the first trial for the first defendant (the only minor) came back with a strong guilty verdict and the judge in that case actually commented on the record regarding the decision in the following case with the two adult defendants, because of how egregiously wrong it was:
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